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I own one album by Zion I that's a collaboration they did with the Grouch. It's decent but I wasn't really blown away by it. Some of it, unfortunately, indulges in some of the worst aspects of pop-rap. Is there any other album by them that you'd recommend? |
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Well the business models are pretty different. Underground, trying-to-make-it rappers still went to labels.
No ones taking risks anymore. |
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early 90's hip hop > late 90's hip hop
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I'm gonna go with the 90s. I loved the 90s.
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I assume those also born five months after Tupac died, or maybe they were three when California Love was released?
Either way it's hard to say. I'm sure something great has come from each decade. I've been listening to A Tribe Called Quest and these guys were pretty talented. I'd say 90s but admittedly I haven't listened to anything from the 80s (that I can remember being from there) aside from 3 Feet High and Rising. Which, I admit again, I have not listened to thoroughly or enjoy very much to want to. |
He's right, rap wasn't the same. Was it worse? Not necessarily, though the state of rap did definitely change after 2Pac/Biggie's premature deaths. And for the record, I prefer 90's rap pre-2pac death.
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It's true that hip-hop evolved over the course of the 90s, just like it has over the 80s and the 00s, but Tupac's death wasn't some big turning point that caused things to change overnight. There was some great rap music, and some utter garbage, released both in the early 90s and the late 90s. |
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Things didn't change overnight, but the deaths of two of the biggest forces in rap definitely had an impact on the scene. And yes, I agree that their was good rap both before and after 2Pac's death. |
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I'm not saying 2Pac was everything hip hop, just he was an important part to it's progression in the 90's and his death changed that progression. |
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Obviously there was a few sporadic artists here and there, but I don't think it even comes close to rivaling the likes of 2Pac, Cypress Hill, Ice Cube, N.W.A., Del tha Funkee Homosapien, etc. |
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A similar analogy can be for AC/DC. They continued to sell in the late 80's and 90's, but I consider them basically a 70's act because I couldn't care less about what they've released post-1980. Quote:
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I still think his early 90's stuff is strong enough to stand on it's own two feet though :bringit: |
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You said he was mediocre. I said he wasn't. Quote:
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Also, is there any reason your getting on my case but not Janszoon's? He said Snoop Dogg isn't good period, I only said his late 90's albums weren't good. Must be a mod thing. |
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