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The Bullet 10-15-2010 07:29 PM

Rapper VS. Sample
 
A staple of hip-hop is sampling other people's music, often not hip-hop at all. A good rapper would be able to improve upon the sample. A bad one? Not even close. This thread is basically like "song wars", but instead, it pits rappers against the samples they use. If you guys have any idea's, just drop me a PM.

First Matchup

2pac- Changes



(Sorry, I couldn't find the studio version. I think this is lip-synced though.)

2pac 1
Bruce Hornsby 0

Edit: 12/5/10
Record


2pac- Changes 3
Bruce Hornsby- The Way it Is 0

Aerosmith- Dream On 3
Eminem- Sing for the Moment 2

Weezer- Say it Ain't So 3
Spose- Drugs, Girls, Money, Liquor 2

Sugarhill Gang- Rapper's Delight 1
Chic- Good Times 1

Beastie Boys- Slow Ride 0
War- Low Rider 1

Dr_Rez 10-15-2010 07:44 PM

Wait how can you give Pac a point for using someone else's song idea? I mean there snothing wrong with that but at the end of the day Bruce Hornsby still wrote it.

Hell All Along the Watchtower is the best ****ing Hendrix song imo, but even though I find it 10x more listenable than Dylans, its a losing battle.

The Bullet 10-15-2010 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 943685)
Wait how can you give Pac a point for using someone else's song idea? I mean there snothing wrong with that but at the end of the day Bruce Hornsby still wrote it.

It's basically a cover. I'm not denying that. Bruce Hornsby wrote it. Yes, you can legitimately vote for him because of that, even if you prefer 2pac's version. I'm personally judging based on pure quality here, not ethnicallity, and for me, it's not even close.

2pac's lyrics and rhythm/flow>Bruce's lyrics and voice
Talent's chorus>Bruce's chorus.
And, for some reason, 2pac's version doesn't sound as dated. I don't know why.

Dr_Rez 10-15-2010 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bullet (Post 943690)
It's basically a cover. I'm not denying that. Bruce Hornsby wrote it. Yes, you can legitimately vote for him because of that, even if you prefer 2pac's version. I'm personally judging based on pure quality here, not ethnicallity, and for me, it's not even close.

2pac's lyrics and rhythm/flow>Bruce's lyrics and voice
Talent's chorus>Bruce's chorus.
And, for some reason, 2pac's version doesn't sound as dated. I don't know why.

I agree with your for sure. Although comparing these is apples to oranges. The genres are so far apart.

someonecompletelyrandom 10-16-2010 11:39 AM

Most sampling wouldn't be considered "covers" though. Sampling is born of deejaying culture and it reflects the ideal of using what's at hand to create something new. Basically, a good producer will either put things together that never would have been, or an artist/producer may enjoy a particular piece of music so much that they want to perform their take on it. Basically a cover, but a bit different because it does involve writing a lot of original material.

Also, it's not "stealing" anything because everybody knows it's a sample.

Queen Boo 10-16-2010 06:08 PM

I like this thread idea.
I prefer 2pac's. It feels more modern and more genuine.

2pac 2
Bruce Hornsby 0

The Bullet 10-16-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAVEMENT SAW (Post 943942)
I like this thread idea.
I prefer 2pac's. It feels more modern and more genuine.

2pac 2
Bruce Hornsby 0

Wouldn't it be
2pac 2
Bruce Hornsby 1
because of Rezz?

@Rezz, I saw that as a vote. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Dr_Rez 10-17-2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bullet (Post 943946)
Wouldn't it be
2pac 2
Bruce Hornsby 1
because of Rezz?

@Rezz, I saw that as a vote. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Well by this threads terms I actually vote for Pac. I was defending the songwriter but I like Pacs song way more.

Queen Boo 10-17-2010 06:39 PM

Okay, for the sake of the thread
2pac 3
Bruce Hornsby 0

Right?

The Bullet 10-21-2010 02:18 PM

Sorry for being off the net for a while, I've been super busy. Anyways, I'm above putting up one match and ditching the thread. Looks like 2Pac won, and, uh, looking at how active this thread is, it doesn't seem like there's gona be a dramatic comeback anytime soon, so I'm moving on to the next match.

Next match:
Aerosmith- Dream On


Eminem- Sing For the Moment


Aerosmith 1
Eminem 0


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