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K-DUB 12-08-2010 11:54 AM

The Greatest Rap/Hip Hop Group of all Time
 
Who is the Greatest Hip Hop/Rap group of all time? if you cant choose just one then make a list.

James 12-08-2010 12:40 PM

Wu Tang Clan.

Dirty 12-08-2010 12:42 PM

This isn't even close... Wu Tang by a landslide. They are just awesome.


if you disagree, then it's best to protect ya neck!

someonecompletelyrandom 12-08-2010 12:55 PM

Everyone loves the Wu, but as a group their efforts have never been able to top 36 Chambers. I personally choose them, but honestly the Doomtree collective isn't that far behind.

Dirty 12-08-2010 12:57 PM

36 Chambers is a classic though, I don't think it can even be topped by anyone honestly. I'd put it in the top 5 rap albums ever, by anyone. Some great solo stuff too, especially Liquid Swords, Tical, and OB4CL

Janszoon 12-08-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 967100)
36 Chambers is a classic though, I don't think it can even be topped by anyone honestly. I'd put it in the top 5 rap albums ever, by anyone. Some great solo stuff too, especially Liquid Swords, Tical, and OB4CL

I have to admit I find 36 Chambers kind of meh. I've never understood why people make such a big deal out of it.

someonecompletelyrandom 12-08-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 967112)
I have to admit I find 36 Chambers kind of meh. I've never understood why people make such a big deal out of it.

I've got three letters and one word for you.

RZA Production.

Janszoon 12-08-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 967114)
I've got three letters and one word for you.

RZA Production.

I have one word for you: meh.

urmusicgigi 12-08-2010 05:23 PM

In terms of sheer variety and releases, nobody really comes close to the WU.

Other groups that definitely deserve mention are A Tribe Called Quest, Hieroglyphics, Beastie Boys, EPMD & Public Enemy.

someonecompletelyrandom 12-08-2010 05:25 PM

Beastie Boys were great, but they really only ever had one sound.

clutnuckle 12-08-2010 05:27 PM

Liquid Swords crushes 36 Chambers imo, and some of the other solo albums (Raekwon's) piss me off to such an n'th degree... Though if I were asked this question I'd likely say them. Just for general aesthetic. They were innovative and some of their songs were downright killer. I wouldn't say they've ever had a killer album, but some of their songs are just anthems.

SATCHMO 12-08-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 967205)
Beastie Boys were great, but they really only ever had one sound.

Seriously?

Janszoon 12-08-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 967220)
Seriously?

Seconded.

someonecompletelyrandom 12-08-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 967220)
Seriously?

Unless I'm missing something?

Janszoon 12-08-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 967226)
Unless I'm missing something?

I think what you're missing is the fact that they have one of the most varied sounds of anyone mentioned so far in this thread.

someonecompletelyrandom 12-08-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 967227)
I think what you're missing is the fact that they have one of the most varied sounds of anyone mentioned so far in this thread.

I only have Licensed to Ill and Paul's Boutique so I'm probably speaking from a complete state of darkness.

SATCHMO 12-08-2010 06:16 PM

License to Ill - straightforward 80's hip hop, with the exception of Fight for Your Right to Party and No Sleep Til Brooklyn, which had some hard rock/metal influence. Produced by Rick Rubin

Paul's Boutique - A sampler's masterpiece and a total tribute to 70's music and disco produced by the Dust Brothers w/ DJ Hurricane

Check your head - Combined hip hop with alt. rock and jazz. Saw the introduction of Ad Rock, MCA, and Mike D playing their own instruments (Since they started as an NYC punk group). Also brought in Mario Caldato on Hammond B3 organ and a separated percussionist. Produced by Mario C. (I think)

Ill Communication - Pretty much straightforward 90's hip-hop with more of the group's instrumental creations to augment their sound.

Hello Nasty -Futuristic hip-hop with a definite outerspace feel. Legenary Mixmaster Mike on the decks.

To the Five Burroughs - Meh, haven't really listened to it, so I can't really say.

Janszoon 12-08-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 967229)
I only have Licensed to Ill and Paul's Boutique so I'm probably speaking from a complete state of darkness.

Well, even those two albums are pretty different from each other, but give a listen to Check Your Head or Ill Communication. There's more variety within either one of those albums than a lot of hip hop groups have in their entire career.

Janszoon 12-08-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 967232)
Ill Communication - Pretty much straightforward 90's hip-hop with more of the group's instrumental creations to augment their sound.

Don't forget about the hardcore-ish tracks.

SATCHMO 12-08-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 967242)
Don't forget about the hardcore-ish tracks.

Tough Guy and Heart attack Man? Yeah, they were pretty punk, kinda' a throwback to there pre-hip hop days

There was Time for Livin' on Check Your Head too. Which was pretty similar to those two tracks.

Sparky 12-09-2010 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle (Post 967207)
Liquid Swords crushes 36 Chambers imo, and some of the other solo albums (Raekwon's) piss me off to such an n'th degree... Though if I were asked this question I'd likely say them. Just for general aesthetic. They were innovative and some of their songs were downright killer. I wouldn't say they've ever had a killer album, but some of their songs are just anthems.

How come?

SATCHMO 12-09-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 967112)
I have to admit I find 36 Chambers kind of meh. I've never understood why people make such a big deal out of it.

I love Wu Tang, but I'm with you on this. It's a classic and their most recognizable songs are on there, but I think if you took Wu Tang Forever and pared it down from a double album to like 10-13 songs, it would blow 36 chambers away easily. I still don't know why they chose to release a double album as their follow up to 36 chambers.

someonecompletelyrandom 12-09-2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 967232)
License to Ill - straightforward 80's hip hop, with the exception of Fight for Your Right to Party and No Sleep Til Brooklyn, which had some hard rock/metal influence. Produced by Rick Rubin

Paul's Boutique - A sampler's masterpiece and a total tribute to 70's music and disco produced by the Dust Brothers w/ DJ Hurricane

Check your head - Combined hip hop with alt. rock and jazz. Saw the introduction of Ad Rock, MCA, and Mike D playing their own instruments (Since they started as an NYC punk group). Also brought in Mario Caldato on Hammond B3 organ and a separated percussionist. Produced by Mario C. (I think)

Ill Communication - Pretty much straightforward 90's hip-hop with more of the group's instrumental creations to augment their sound.

Hello Nasty -Futuristic hip-hop with a definite outerspace feel. Legenary Mixmaster Mike on the decks.

To the Five Burroughs - Meh, haven't really listened to it, so I can't really say.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 967240)
Well, even those two albums are pretty different from each other, but give a listen to Check Your Head or Ill Communication. There's more variety within either one of those albums than a lot of hip hop groups have in their entire career.

I had no idea. I haven't even listened to all of Paul's Boutique and I made this assumption. Now I'm going to have to listen to those. Thanks guys. :thumb:

euphmatik 12-15-2010 12:32 AM

Tribe Called quest
De La Soul
Wu Tang Clan
Roots
Cypress Hill
Gangstarr
Hieroglyphics
Alkaholics
Diggable Planets
Pharcyde


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