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supermarlin 12-18-2010 05:45 PM

Is Detox worth the wait?
 
After 11 years Dre's final album cannot possibly meet our expectations, and whilst I am excited by 'Kush' which in my opinion is a great track, I hardly think Detox is going to be worth waiting for, if it isn't out by June next year I won't be buying. What is everyone else's opinion? Should he just let it become a Hip-Hop myth and therefore our expectations won't be ruined?

tonyytoniitonee 12-19-2010 05:09 PM

I was thinking this same thing the other day. The exact same thing. It's like I'm expecting a masterpiece you know, but Dre has a pretty strong track record. So i'm optimistic. I think it's safe to say that it won't be a "terrible" album. So as long as that stays true, I think I'll be satisfied with the end result. haha, its gonna go quadruple platinum just for the simple fact that it's dre and it's 2332423 years past due.

supermarlin 12-21-2010 09:15 PM

yeah, even if people end up hating the album, everybody will go out, buy it, then say it sucks, but it's already sold x-million copies by that point haha

Hitting_Singularity 01-12-2011 02:42 PM

So last I heard the release date was February. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's been delayed again.

That being said, I think it will be just as good as his other albums if not better. My reasoning is that the whole reason it takes so long for him to release albums is beacuse he is the biggest perfectionist for his own work. So when he does actually decide to release it, you better believe it will be perfect.

That being said again.. if it isn't an amazing album, then he must have sold out or just gave up or something, but I don't think that will happen.

What do you guys think of 'Kush' as the first single? I like the song, but I'm hoping there will be better tracks than that.

djchameleon 01-12-2011 04:22 PM

February is too soon, it needs to be pushed back til Sept.

yeah i'm really liking Kush but I just don't feel the album overall is going to live up to the long awaited hype. He kept us waiting too long to the point that either some people just don't care anymore if it comes out or they don't have high expectations of it.

supermarlin 01-12-2011 05:36 PM

I think that he made a wise decision in making Kush the lead single, considering he's said that it's the only weed track on the album it's probably best he puts out something first fans will be familiar with after being away so long, if he'd made his first single something completely different it might not of gone down well at all.

Janszoon 01-12-2011 07:59 PM

I'm cautiously optimistic about this one.

Hitting_Singularity 01-12-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by supermarlin (Post 984753)
I think that he made a wise decision in making Kush the lead single, considering he's said that it's the only weed track on the album it's probably best he puts out something first fans will be familiar with after being away so long, if he'd made his first single something completely different it might not of gone down well at all.

Actually, it wasn't really his decision, the track got leaked before it was finished mixing, so he wanted people to hear the finished version and not judge it on what leaked, so he made it an early single.

supermarlin 01-12-2011 11:15 PM

Remember the talk of it being released in Febuary? We're about halfway through January now, surely there should be promotion and stuff appearing, although maybe Dre has simply forgotten Australian exists, I don't know. But surely we should be seeing SOMETHING about it by now, considering he says it was finalized in december. And just curiously, how is he going to get away with calling it his own album? He never writes his own lyrics, and the two songs people can hear from it aren't produced by him either, so as far as hip-hop goes that means you've hardly touched the song.

GoodFella 01-14-2011 11:11 AM

Kush is a good song. However, it does lack the wow factor of singles from previous albums. As far as Detox goes, I don't expect it to top The Chronic or 2001 or to be absolutely amazing, though I can understand people feeling that it should be, given the wait for this album.
I'm sure it's still going to be a very good album.

Hitting_Singularity 01-14-2011 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodFella (Post 985654)
Kush is a good song. However, it does lack the wow factor of singles from previous albums. As far as Detox goes, I don't expect it to top The Chronic or 2001 or to be absolutely amazing, though I can understand people feeling that it should be, given the wait for this album.
I'm sure it's still going to be a very good album.

lol! stop saying such true things. that's the 2nd thread in a row i click on where you say something that I realize something I didn't fully realized before that might be true and I agree with you. lmao!

GoodFella 01-18-2011 04:42 AM

Apparently Detox will be released April 20th.

Unable to post links just yet, but for those interested, you can check it out on Rapradar, HipHopDX amongst other websites.

djchameleon 01-18-2011 09:04 AM

HipHopDX didn't have a release date listed for Detox

sleepy jack 01-18-2011 02:28 PM

Dr. Dre's "Detox" To Drop On 4/20? | Get The Latest Hip Hop News, Rap News & Hip Hop Album Sales | HipHopDX

This is what he's referring to.

djchameleon 01-18-2011 02:46 PM

weird I didn't see that article on the main page when I checked earlier.

Hitting_Singularity 01-19-2011 01:01 AM

lol. honestly if he pushes it back past 2021, I'm giving up

someonecompletelyrandom 01-19-2011 02:15 AM

I'll probably still like rap at 40. But if it sucks... talk about a let down!

TheHeaviestHookUps 01-19-2011 09:43 AM

I don't think it's possible to make an album as good as people now want. It's been hyped up so so much for so so long, that Dre would have to top all that he's done previous for it to be as well received as it is anticipated (if that makes sense). I don't think that's really possible.

Kush is a dope joint, but it doesn't sound like the amazing first single from the best album of the last 2 decades.

ninak 01-22-2011 10:24 AM

when i first heard dr. dre's new single "Kush" i didn't like it but after seeing the video and hearing the song a few times it sounds pretty good. i think it's hard to come back after being away so long but we will see.

Janszoon 01-22-2011 12:26 PM

I'm listening to "Kush" for the first time right now. There's some lame trend-hopping going on that's a little disappointing but it's not a bad song overall. I was pretty surprised to discover that Dr. Dre appears to have become a much better rapper in the past decade.

supermarlin 01-22-2011 05:03 PM

Somebody inside Aftermath has been leaking songs pretty consistently over the past few months, whoever this guy is I'm grateful because it will most likely mean that Detox will be pushed forward out of legit material being leaked.

supermarlin 02-05-2011 02:52 AM

So, 'I Need a Doctor' is officially released now, what's the forum's thoughts? Do you think that with two singles out it's safe to expect a 2011 Detox release?

djchameleon 02-05-2011 05:38 AM

I heard that single awhile ago and it's okay but I didn't know he put it out as the official second single yet. I'm pretty sure we might get Detox on schedule.

supermarlin 02-18-2011 04:11 AM

So, now 'I Need a Doctor' has seen a tv performance, can anyone say 'Detox'? I think it will finally happen :)

djchameleon 02-18-2011 04:14 AM

I just read an article saying that it got delayed until 2012

supermarlin 02-18-2011 03:03 PM

Lol, seriously? Ok, I'm done.

djchameleon 02-18-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by supermarlin (Post 1007113)
Lol, seriously? Ok, I'm done.

no, i'm just messing with you lol.

What if it did happen though? that would be too funny

EvilChuck 02-18-2011 04:23 PM

Detox will be a disappointment. Its inevitable, the wait is too long and they hype will be too much so that when it does eventually release it is never going to live up to everyone's hype and expectations. I have no doubt it will be good, but we wont appreciate how good it is for a while after its been released

supermarlin 02-18-2011 06:14 PM

I agree with EvilChuck

supermarlin 02-25-2011 11:19 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA770wpLX-Q&feature=aso
New music video :)

djchameleon 02-26-2011 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by supermarlin (Post 1010969)

lol stop posting in this thread if it's not a leak I don't want to know.


I keep getting my hopes up and then yeah no leak :P:nono:

Hitting_Singularity 02-26-2011 10:16 AM

^ why would you want a leak, its never mixed properly just have patience lol.

I think the new song is really good. em's verses really touched me, but I wonder why snoop wasn't in this song, its not like him and Dre have fallen out have they?

Karrit 02-26-2011 01:30 PM

I personally can't wait for it's release! I think it's gunna be a hit for sure, and after the release of "I Need A Doctor" I'm already amazed. The one thing about Dr Dre, eminem, and Lil Wayne is that they are all perfectionists. I know Lil Wayne has a lot of hate, but that's mainly due to his mixtapes. His Carter albums always deliver imo.

djchameleon 02-26-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitting_Singularity (Post 1011110)
^ why would you want a leak, its never mixed properly just have patience lol.

I think the new song is really good. em's verses really touched me, but I wonder why snoop wasn't in this song, its not like him and Dre have fallen out have they?

Patience? do you even go here? this is 2011 leaks or go home. The leaked product is to hold us over until the official release. So what if it's not mixed properly. At least we got something to tide us over til then.
Snoop is probably on a different song with him. I know he's on the "Kush" song with him.

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Originally Posted by Karrit (Post 1011164)
I personally can't wait for it's release! I think it's gunna be a hit for sure, and after the release of "I Need A Doctor" I'm already amazed. The one thing about Dr Dre, eminem, and Lil Wayne is that they are all perfectionists. I know Lil Wayne has a lot of hate, but that's mainly due to his mixtapes. His Carter albums always deliver imo.

I think you have that backwards.

supermarlin 02-26-2011 03:33 PM

Haha, I was just posting stuff like video clips and live performances because the more things like that that happen, the more likely it is that Detox is actually going to be released, and I'm not looking for any leaks so don't expect me to post them haha, and yeah, Snoop is on Kush.

Buzzov*en 03-01-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 984697)
February is too soon, it needs to be pushed back til Sept.

yeah i'm really liking Kush but I just don't feel the album overall is going to live up to the long awaited hype. He kept us waiting too long to the point that either some people just don't care anymore if it comes out or they don't have high expectations of it.

I feel that same exact way. I am also one of those people that just do not care if it comes out or not. I am interested to see if it does meet expectations (all of us probably have different ones), but if it sucks w.e I'll just delete the files.

Dirty 03-01-2011 12:16 PM

I hope it's good but I have my doubts. There will no doubt be some catchy beats and choruses and I'm sure it's gonna be incredibly popular considering the people working on the album. But I've never been a gigantic fan of Dre's style and I don't think he's a great rhymer. I didn't care for his verse on I Need A Doctor that much either. I'm gonna give it a listen for sure but I'm not expecting anything great.

Janszoon 03-01-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1012256)
I hope it's good but I have my doubts. There will no doubt be some catchy beats and choruses and I'm sure it's gonna be incredibly popular considering the people working on the album. But I've never been a gigantic fan of Dre's style and I don't think he's a great rhymer. I didn't care for his verse on I Need A Doctor that much either. I'm gonna give it a listen for sure but I'm not expecting anything great.

Nobody listens to Dre for his rapping abilities. It's his production that's noteworthy and he knows it, which is why he always gets a lot of other people to rap on his albums.

Dirty 03-01-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1012265)
Nobody listens to Dre for his rapping abilities. It's his production that's noteworthy and he knows it, which is why he always gets a lot of other people to rap on his albums.

Yeah I agree, he's a pretty bad rapper in my opinion. He only raps 1 verse on I Need A Doctor and it's the shortest one. He should just get Em to rap on every song.

Janszoon 03-01-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1012269)
Yeah I agree, he's a pretty bad rapper in my opinion. He only raps 1 verse on I Need A Doctor and it's the shortest one. He should just get Em to rap on every song.

Or Snoop.


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