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Sparky 05-01-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 1046331)
i'll probably get a good amount of flack for this, but i've listened to this album multiple times and i could never really get into it. maybe because i was never too big on 90s hip hop, but every time i listened to this album i just felt like i was meandering and nothing really grabbed me. i would agree that it's overrated.

really, in terms of describing urban inner city life, i think Cannibal Ox's The Cold Vein expressed it with much more of a visceral way that hits right where you feel. compared to that, Nas' way of descriptive rapping falls short.

even so, i do respect its influence and i can understand why people at the time and even now can see it as greatness. it's just that it didn't grab me, is all.

I don't know how you can listen to Vast Aire and then criticize Nas for not providing good description.

Vast Aire has always been saved by really good production, but his rapping has been simple and dull.

khfreek 05-01-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Heshisphresh (Post 1046621)
If you're just listening to Illmatic, then I've got a lot to teach you guys about hip-hop. Everyone who hasn't already listen to 'Distant Relatives' with Nas and Damian Marley, please give it a listen. I'd rank that album in the top 5 best albums of 2010.

haha I think the hip-hop heads on this forum probably have a lot to teach YOU. There's always classic albums out there that people haven't gotten around to listening to yet, Illmatic was one of those for this guy.

Heshisphresh 05-01-2011 11:44 PM

Trust me. I know my music

Jester 05-04-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Heshisphresh (Post 1046784)
Trust me. I know my music

Favorite Freestyle Fellowship member? Do you like The Coup? Do you like J-Live?

Tell me your favorite rappers.

Antonio 05-04-2011 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by matious (Post 1046628)
I don't know how you can listen to Vast Aire and then criticize Nas for not providing good description.

Vast Aire has always been saved by really good production, but his rapping has been simple and dull.

on the contrary, i think the raw bluntness in how he does his raps, on songs like Iron Galaxy and A B-Boy's Alpha, are great moments on the album. if anything i think that Vordul Mega is less interesting at times.

Vast's style is simple, yes, but it's how he works with it that makes it great. (aka-it's not what you have, it's how you use it)

Heshisphresh 05-04-2011 10:24 PM

Are you trying to prove some sort of point?

khfreek 05-05-2011 12:52 PM

It's just that a lot of people join musicbanter thinking they know a lot about music when they don't really.

Sparky 05-05-2011 08:05 PM

Good thing your able to see through people's avatars and get at the core

Phantom Limb 05-05-2011 08:08 PM

I know everything! Look at me!

khfreek 05-05-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Abearmauledme (Post 1049025)
I know everything! Look at me!

Yeah, well I knew about everything before they were signed


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