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Cuthbert 03-27-2013 06:23 AM

Underrated Hip-Hop albums?
 
Which albums do you think are underrated/overlooked? Not necessarily ones you like by underground artists that you feel deserve mainstream recognition or whatever, I mean ones that people tend to forget?

Here's one I think is very underrated:

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Dizzee Rascal - Showtime

Been listening to this loads recently, everyone knows how good his debut was and is quick to mention that to the point where this is almost forgotten about. It is every bit as good in my opinion and better in places. There's nothing in the mould of Brand New Day on it but he took the sound of the first one and polished it up a bit, mostly self produced, his production is still pots and pans in places (which is part of the appeal) but easier on the ear. His flow is tighter and there's more aggression on here.


Dizzee Rascal Hype Talk - YouTube


Dizzee Rascal - Graftin - YouTube

What about you? What albums do you think are underrated? (And why?)

Did a search for similar threads and couldn't find any.

Janszoon 03-27-2013 06:34 AM

Showtime is a decent album for sure, though I don't think it's quite up to the level of his first one.

Cuthbert 03-27-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1301058)
Showtime is a decent album for sure, though I don't think it's quite up to the level of his first one.

I dunno, it's not far off imo, 1st one had the shock factor for a lot of people who had never heard that sound before, so the 2nd can't possibly have the same effect as the first. Plus it has a few better songs whereas on this like I said it's more aggressive.

But technically, I think it's as good. Definitely underrated anyway, a lot of people think BIDC and ignore all his other stuff.

Both quality though.

Goofle 03-27-2013 09:06 AM

Boom Bip & Doseone - Circle

Vakill - Armor of God

Ugly Duckling - Bang for the Buck

Greenthink - Blindfold

K Dot O Dot - Trap Jesus

People Under the Stairs - Fun DMC

Janszoon 03-27-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1301084)
Boom Bip & Doseone - Circle

Vakill - Armor of God

Ugly Duckling - Bang for the Buck

Greenthink - Blindfold

K Dot O Dot - Trap Jesus

People Under the Stairs - Fun DMC

The K Dot O Dot is the only album I know on this list. I'll definitely be checking the rest out.

Electrophonic Tonic 03-27-2013 09:52 AM

I really like Iron Galaxy, but I think Architechnology is what Iron Galaxy wants to be. Comparisons aside, it's an amazing 90's alternative hip hop album.

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Goofle 03-27-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1301097)
The K Dot O Dot is the only album I know on this list. I'll definitely be checking the rest out.

Interesting. If you want the more abstract, go for Greenthink/Boom Bip & Doseone, if you want more standard/golden age sounding, People Under the Stairs/Ugly Duckling, and Vakill is just a spitter.

DantedaDude 03-30-2013 02:12 PM

Kendrick Lamar-Section.80

SGR 03-31-2013 06:42 AM

Smif-N-Wessun - Dah' Shinin

Heltah Skeltah - Nocturnal

Tribe Called Quest - Beats, Rhymes, and Life

Sage Francis - Human the Death Dance

Jay-Z - American Gangster

OccultHawk 03-31-2013 08:15 AM

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Architechnology
Reminds me of Jedi Mind Tricks

PALM 03-31-2013 06:18 PM

Curren$y- Pilot Talk 2

kealyboy 04-02-2013 07:13 PM

Mobb Deep - Murda Muzik

SGR 04-03-2013 05:21 AM

This one is underrated in the press I think. Got terrible reviews when it came out.

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4577980808626324&pid=1.7

Goofle 04-03-2013 05:25 AM

^ I think it's slightly above average.

djchameleon 04-03-2013 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 1302431)
Tribe Called Quest - Beats, Rhymes, and Life

I don't know about that album being underrated. Sure lots of people like to name drop Low End Theory first but this album was nominated for two grammys and was number one on billboard charts at the time.

edwardc77 04-06-2013 07:53 PM

Here are some albums that should have of had more mainstream attention:
(some of these records aren't 100% hip hop)
Blu & Exile-Below the Heavens
Grand Invincibile-Winter
Action Bronson-Dr Lecter
Mad Villiain-Madvillainy
Shad-TSOL
Dizzy Rascal-Boy In Da Corner
The Streets-A Grand don't come for free
Cannibal Ox-The Cold Vein
Tricky-Pre Millenium Tension
Deltron-3030
Black Milk-Tronic

SGR 04-07-2013 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1303388)
I don't know about that album being underrated. Sure lots of people like to name drop Low End Theory first but this album was nominated for two grammys and was number one on billboard charts at the time.

Maybe at the time, but in the present, it's often overlooked in favor of their first three albums.

@Goofle: What's your fav Pac album?

Goofle 04-07-2013 07:40 AM

All Eyez On Me

SGR 04-08-2013 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1304554)
All Eyez On Me

Same here, but what makes it better than MATW for you? The beats?

Goofle 04-08-2013 08:36 AM

I don't really know, very rarely listen to 2pac these days. Just gave it a better rating on RYM.

SGR 04-09-2013 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1304840)
I don't really know, very rarely listen to 2pac these days. Just gave it a better rating on RYM.

Lol, poor Goofle, listens to so much music that it becomes hard to remember details. :laughing:

Oh, youre a Ghostface fan right, have you checked out the stream of his new album yet?

NPR Media Player

I'd love to hear what you think if you get the chance to listen to it.

Goofle 04-09-2013 06:42 AM

I have not. Will wait to download it or hear on Spotify though.

And I just don't find Tupac memorable. Most of his stuff sounds the same.

SGR 04-10-2013 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1305171)
I have not. Will wait to download it or hear on Spotify though.

And I just don't find Tupac memorable. Most of his stuff sounds the same.

Really? For me 2Pacalypse Now is a million miles away sound-wise from All Eyez. Even MATW is very different sounding.

Goofle 04-10-2013 05:31 AM

If you don't mind, could you link a few songs in particular that sound different?

SGR 04-10-2013 05:36 AM

Sure

From 2Pacalypse Now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An6xqwOUYGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G36TCDG_vDU

From AEOM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9KWYwczHEw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqauSXTRAow

Goofle 04-10-2013 05:44 AM

Thanks. Just from listening for a few seconds I see where you are coming from, but they are still quite similar. I think on "Trapped" the tone is a lot deeper, but all that's really different from "How Do U Want It" is the higher pitched guitar lines or whatever.

SGR 04-10-2013 05:47 AM

Hm, you think? I thought that Trapped was much more steeped in funk while How Do U Want It is more of a pop-hop tune. I agree that the way 2Pac spits doesn't have as much variety as his actual production though.

Deviouz 04-11-2013 03:47 AM

Should compare MATW, 7DT and AEOM.

SGR 04-11-2013 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Deviouz (Post 1305817)
Should compare MATW, 7DT and AEOM.

Lyrically, those albums are completely different beasts haha! :)

Cuthbert 04-11-2013 09:51 AM

A better example of sound diversity from 2Pacalypse would be Part Time Mutha (Or Brenda) and Something Wicked.

A lot of the tracks on AEOM are different in sound as well imo. Run The Streetz and Ambitionz Az A Ridah for example. Polar opposites of each other in terms of sound.

SGR 04-12-2013 06:36 AM

^I dunno, I mean, instrumentally, they are very different, but sonically, they feel sorta similar to me. They have that All Eyez gloss if you know what I mean.

Cuthbert 04-13-2013 05:35 AM

Run Tha Streetz sounds more like something that'd be on MATW than AEOM, imo.

Cuthbert 04-13-2013 05:41 AM

Listening to 7 Day Theory, still as good as I remembered it.

SGR 04-13-2013 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1306501)
Listening to 7 Day Theory, still as good as I remembered it.

Nice, what's your favorite tracks on there?

What's your fav Pac album btw?

Cuthbert 04-13-2013 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 1306502)
Nice, what's your favorite tracks on there?

What's your fav Pac album btw?

Tracks: To Live & Die in LA, Krazy, Against All Oddz

I don't think there's a weak track on here though.

Favourite album, dunno. I'd probably go with MATW but 2Pacalypse is great too. It's a bit rough around the edges but that adds to the appeal I think, and it contains some of his best tracks. You can hear the Ice Cube influence on it though.

AEOM is good, has some great tracks but I think the others feel more like albums. Holla At Me is one of my favourite Pac songs ever.

SGR 04-13-2013 06:05 AM

Nice track picks. I'd also throw in "White Manz World" for my favs. You're right about the Cube influence. He was really on the political tip on his debut.

AEOM was recorded so quickly and in so much quantity that you're right, it doesn't feel as cohesive or album-like.


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