Are White Rappers Guests in Hip Hop?

TheBig3 · 09-24-2013, 10:05 AM

The problem with these statements is always the inverse. If being first (which is useless and has no actual value) means that everyone else is a guest, then there are a lot of guests to a lot of things. And when you take "First" which means nothing, and "Race" which means nothing, then you've got this idiot placing a ridiculous amount of value on what amounts to nothing. It's like asking if anyone has change for a sea shell.

But the assumption that white folks are guests in hip hop assumes that black people invented everything that has to do with hip hop - and they didn't. So thanks for being a guest to records, record players, electricity, the instruments that originally played the music that you use to sample music at the origin of hip hop, and the innumerate amount of things that goes along with it (i.e. the streets the block parties took place in where hip hop was debuted).

A stupid argument from some dip**** who came up with an opinion on emotions and no research, and apparently wasn't hugged enough as a child so now he needs attention. People like this are voluntarily weak (mentally) and don't do anything to improve the situation. He ruins society, in my opinion.

**Goofle** · 09-24-2013, 11:11 AM

It really is a moronic set of statements. DJ was right to warn us of a loss of IQ upon reading the interview.

djchameleon · 09-24-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

So does this also mean that he thinks black women are guests in hip hop?

he probably lumps black women under the black man umbrella. just like the term "man" includes women when talking about mankind as a whole. You don't say womankind.

Isbjørn · 09-24-2013, 11:56 AM

Pssh, I guess I'm just a "guest" in this thread then, and that Sansa is the only "true" replier since he was first.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 09-24-2013, 02:12 PM

i lol at ppl who wanna whine about "omg they are stealin their culture!"

stfu so tired of hearin that. those ppl often are more racist than the ppl they accuse, they are just too dumb to realize it

i have no clue who lord jamar is. not even sure what hes really saying but white ppl have a big part in hip hop and always will

also i see herm hasnt lost her white guilt lmao

FrigginParadox · 09-24-2013, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark

LOL YES
See also: jazz music
See also: rock music
See also: ska music

The dude went a little to far but this guy up here has a point ^

Back in the day white people did steal jazz, rock, disco,ska and some more from blacks and they usually get no credit. But that was back when blacks were not racially fair. Nowadays it is evident that hiphop for the most part is culturally "Black" But that dosn't mean White people can not take part of the culture, ya know what i mean?

and Butthead Lord Jamar is from Brand Nubian

Thom Yorke · 09-24-2013, 05:34 PM

Hip hop is for people that are 6'1 and tons of fun. Everyone else is a guest.

4gotmyPW · 09-24-2013, 05:52 PM

I imagine that this thread won't end well

But since Em is the only credible (in terms of $sales) white rapper out there & both his flow & lyrics are mediocre at best I would say that at the moment yes we are guests, but vip guests

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-24-2013, 05:59 PM

Beastie Boys? lol

Eminem's flow is not mediocre at all btw.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 09-24-2013, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4gotmyPW

I imagine that this thread won't end well

But since Em is the only credible (in terms of $sales) white rapper out there & both his flow & lyrics are mediocre at best I would say that at the moment yes we are guests, but vip guests

i lold

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09-24-2013, 10:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	The problem with these statements is always the inverse. If being first (which is useless and has no actual value) means that everyone else is a guest, then there are a lot of guests to a lot of things. And when you take "First" which means nothing, and "Race" which means nothing, then you've got this idiot placing a ridiculous amount of value on what amounts to nothing. It's like asking if anyone has change for a sea shell. But the assumption that white folks are guests in hip hop assumes that black people invented everything that has to do with hip hop - and they didn't. So thanks for being a guest to records, record players, electricity, the instruments that originally played the music that you use to sample music at the origin of hip hop, and the innumerate amount of things that goes along with it (i.e. the streets the block parties took place in where hip hop was debuted). A stupid argument from some dip**** who came up with an opinion on emotions and no research, and apparently wasn't hugged enough as a child so now he needs attention. People like this are voluntarily weak (mentally) and don't do anything to improve the situation. He ruins society, in my opinion. __________________ I've moved to a new address

09-24-2013, 11:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Pssh, I guess I'm just a "guest" in this thread then, and that Sansa is the only "true" replier since he was first. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

09-24-2013, 02:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	i lol at ppl who wanna whine about "omg they are stealin their culture!" stfu so tired of hearin that. those ppl often are more racist than the ppl they accuse, they are just too dumb to realize it i have no clue who lord jamar is. not even sure what hes really saying but white ppl have a big part in hip hop and always will also i see herm hasnt lost her white guilt lmao

09-24-2013, 05:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
Thom Yorke Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,848	Hip hop is for people that are 6'1 and tons of fun. Everyone else is a guest.

09-24-2013, 05:52 PM	#18 (permalink)
4gotmyPW Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 63	I imagine that this thread won't end well But since Em is the only credible (in terms of $sales) white rapper out there & both his flow & lyrics are mediocre at best I would say that at the moment yes we are guests, but vip guests

09-24-2013, 05:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Beastie Boys? lol Eminem's flow is not mediocre at all btw.