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Janszoon 12-17-2014 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1524606)
You can only like one thing at one time. Duh.

Damn, I've really been doing it wrong.

Frownland 12-17-2014 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1524610)
Damn, I've really been doing it wrong.

Maybe the wrong way is better, tbh. I've had my avatar for a day and I'm already sick of Christmas music.

Machine 12-17-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1524610)
Damn, I've really been doing it wrong.

Right?! What have I been doing all this time? Diversity is obviously the wrong way to go about things.

Janszoon 12-17-2014 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1524611)
Maybe the wrong way is better, tbh. I've had my avatar for a day and I'm already sick of Christmas music.

Same. I've had mine for a day and I'm already sick of Ken.

CoNtrivedNiHilism 12-17-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1524592)
What does that have to do with anything he said. And you just called rap a genre!!!

You're a damn idiot. Rap has melody. The problem is you, not Rap. I don't get how people like you, can possibly even comprehend what music is when you can sit there and say Rap isn't music, I mean, my mind is baffled, I am baffled. If anything, what you're displaying here is just a blind hatred or an dislike of a genre of music you don't understand. Like I stated before. I do not like Rap, never have, most of the time I am annoyed by it. But I'm not ignorant, like you seem to be. So I don't go around degrading the genre, all the while attempting to come off like you even know what you're talking about, because you don't. You're contradicting things you say left and right, or someone comes along and gets you thinking, and so you back peddle in an attempt to save face. Perhaps you don't care how you sound, or you're just so up in the clouds with an ego problem that you don't even comprehend how you're coming across to us.

Here. I'll give you a chance to prove me wrong, or convince me that Rap isn't music. Go ahead...

Frownland 12-17-2014 09:12 AM

:laughing: wrong post much?

Blanche_Minim 12-17-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1524620)
You're a damn idiot. Rap has melody. The problem is you, not Rap. I don't get how people like you, can possibly even comprehend what music is when you can sit there and say Rap isn't music, I mean, my mind is baffled, I am baffled. If anything, what you're displaying here is just a blind hatred or an dislike of a genre of music you don't understand. Like I stated before. I do not like Rap, never have, most of the time I am annoyed by it. But I'm not ignorant, like you seem to be. So I don't go around degrading the genre, all the while attempting to come off like you even know what you're talking about, because you don't. You're contradicting things you say left and right, or someone comes along and gets you thinking, and so you back peddle in an attempt to save face. Perhaps you don't care how you sound, or you're just so up in the clouds with an ego problem that you don't even comprehend how you're coming across to us.

Here. I'll give you a chance to prove me wrong, or convince me that Rap isn't music. Go ahead...

What constitutes music? More specifically, and to the point, why is Rap considered music?

Firstly, I would like to provide why I think Rap isn’t music. It’s not convoluted; it’s pretty straight forward. When you are in a coffee house and there’s a guy on stage playing the bongos and another guy standing at the microphone reading poetry, is that considered music just because there are musical sounds accompanying it? No, of course not. So, at it’s best, my argument is that Rap is a crude, very crude, version of poetry. After all, the words, even if some of them are made-up, rhyme. And as a side note, yes, poetry should rhyme. If it doesn’t rhyme, it’s just story-telling.

So there it is. I just laid it all on the line right there. So someone could argue, if they wanted to, that Cake doesn’t make music, or at least, some of their songs aren’t music. For that matter, even Bloodhound Gang’s music shouldn’t be considered music since it’s simply talking accompanied by musical sounds. But still, I maintain that Rap is as much music as a chicken-fingers are actual fingers of chickens.

And as if calling Rap “music” wasn’t enough, they actually give out awards to Rappers. I heard last year they were going to have a new award to give out and it was going to be called “Most Incoherent, Vulgar, Mono-Toned, and Unoriginal Rambling Accompanied by a Video with Half-Naked Women Award”. The only problem was that they were having a hard time figuring out who to give the award to since it pretty much encompassed the entire field of Rap.

Oriphiel 12-17-2014 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Blanche_Minim (Post 1524589)
I'm surprised you have an '80s or 70's rock band as your avatar and you like rap. I look and dress like a prep, but I listen to the kind of music as if I wear a black shirt of my favorite bands and I have long hair.

Additional Information: I have no tattoos, I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke, and I don't do drugs, I have no earrings, and I am not into jewelry (I use my cellphone as my watch). I don't care about the content of the music, what I care about is a song with a strong melody. At least the death metal bands I listen to scream most of the time and playing heavy chords, but it leads to something melodic.

Rap has no melody and I don't spend time listening to that genre.

You've got to brush up on your 1960's, man! Anyway, what's with all of this "I'm such a good person! I don't do drugs! My fourth grade teacher really liked me!" junk you keep posting? You're not on trial here, so stop bringing in character witnesses.

Let me try explaining it to you like I would explain it to a caveman: Noises make people happy, noises are music. Rappers make noises, noises make people happy, Rap is music. Got it? And saying that all rappers do is talk into a microphone is like saying that all guitarists do is hit strings with their fingers. You're ignoring all of the beauty and detail that go into the art.

Chula Vista 12-17-2014 09:40 AM

Stop. Feeding. The. Troll.

He's posted basically the same thing dozens of times and completely ignores anyone who tries to clue him in.

Hey, I google imaged Blanche_Minim and this came up!

http://www.bierihearing.com/files/3676/297786.jpg

CoNtrivedNiHilism 12-17-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1524639)
Stop. Feeding. The. Troll.

He's posted basically the same thing dozens of times and completely ignores anyone who tries to clue him in.

Hey, I google imaged Blanche_Minim and this came up!

http://www.bierihearing.com/files/3676/297786.jpg

You know, sometimes I hope trolls aren't actually trolls, and that this guy really is this ignorant. That's why I keep posting in this thread, to see what other nonsense he'll come up with. See his reply to my last post? Pretty hilarious stuff. I guess music has to be comprised of actual instruments and the lyrics need to be sung to constitute music.

But, yeah...I think I'm going to bow out of this thread because it hurts my brain too much.


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