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versus95 08-19-2015 02:13 PM

Best hiphop verse ever
 
Just a quick question: in your opinion which is the best hh verse ever?
I say Biggie's one in Notorius Thugs.
tell us

DwnWthVwls 08-20-2015 07:29 PM

That's a great verse but not even my favorite biggie verse.. This is a really hard question.

Here is one of my favorites:

Sage Francis - Keep Moving

Quote:

Miss intuition, the half truth harlot
Got her suspicions, lacks proof but wants it
I've been practicing grabbing the noose when the knot slips
Rewiring my mind to make the firing squad miss
And while they're busy reloading
I'm decoding the messages you sent with this key that I keep holding
But it's a copy and the lock seems broken
Got me choking on discussions I cannot keep open
I'm fully clothed in this cocktease moment
The last cigarette sits between my lips but I will not smoke it
And while it dangled I got strangled by a secondhand
Broke the rope, held my breath, and let my chest expand
Through the stogie, to the lonely hitman for hire
Told him he owed me, showed me that his hand's on fire
We didn't shake on it, he nodded, I nodded back
Lit the cigarette with his fingertip and dropped the gat
I started walkin the tracks you shoulda tied me to
Waited for the train to hop or stop to say goodbye to you
When I turned my head heard what you said
"Murder him dead, tried to do it with the girl in his bed"
So I fled, remembering one should never look back
There's no direction home only blood on the track
Stuck in the past, I jetted, I left the red footprints for them to follow
Headed for tomorrow where I take sips from a flask
You bought me for my sober anniversary
Her dad tracks my scent, she's got her old man in search of me
He knows where I'm headed, he's been there
King of the home, sits on his throne like it's an electric chair
I'm the heir to that domestic death sentence
I see people accepting lethal injections dead in seconds
They confuse prison for a bed and breakfast
Check my voicemail see you left a message
Could it be her, could it be? The desperate
Mad at me because they lack a strategy for exit
Huh, nobody pregnant, nobody get burped
I got lost on this head trip but I won't talk to an expert
My legs hurt cause I've been walking with cement boots
Ever since you lured me to the water bed to get cute
You wore a wet suit and tried this position
But couldn't execute this type of mission
It's no small time thing organizing my ending
My book of life is a choose your own adventure with a circular section
You told your friends I walked all over you
But you know that's not what these boots were made to do
In fact, you had them crafted at the store
You said, "Baby, put them on", I don't know what you take me for
Knew something was up when they got nailed to the floor
Since the key didn't work, I kicked my way through the door

Plainview 08-21-2015 04:53 PM

This is really probably not the best by any means but regardless, I always loved this verse in Poetic Justice:

Quote:

Every time I write these words, they become a taboo
Making sure my punctuation curve, every letter here's true
Living my life in the margin and that metaphor was proof
I'm talking poetic justice, poetic justice
If I told you that a flower bloomed in a dark room, would you trust it?
I mean you need to hear this, love is not just a verb
It's you looking in the mirror, love is not just a verb
It's you looking for it, maybe, call me crazy, we can both be insane
A fatal attraction is common and what we have common is pain
I mean you need to hear this, love is not just a verb
And I can see power steering, sex drive when you swerve
I want that interference, it's coherent, I can hear it, uh-huh
That's your heartbeat, it either caught me or it called me, uh-huh
Read slow and you'll find gold mines in these lines
Sincerely, yours truly and right before you go blind, P.S

Mister Jip 08-22-2015 07:09 AM

Melle Mel - Beat street breakdown (1984)

A newspaper burns in the sand
And the headlines say 'Man Destroys Man'
Extra extra, read all the bad news
On the war for peace that everybody would lose
The rise and fall, the last great empire
The sound of the whole world caught on fire
The ruthless struggle, the desperate gamble
The game that left the whole world in shambles
The cheats, the lies, the alibies
And the foolish attempts to conquer the sky
Lost in space, and what is it worth?
Huh, the President just forgot about Earth
Spendin multi-billions and maybe even trillions
The cost of weapons ran in the zillions
There's gold in the street and there's diamond under feet
And the children in Africa don't even eat
Flies on their faces, they're livin like mice
And their houses even make the ghetto look nice
Huh, the water tastes funny, it's forever too sunny
And they work all month and don't make no money
A fight for power, a nuclear shower
A people shout out in the darkest hour
Sights unseen and voices unheard
And finally the bomb gets the last word
Christians killed Muslims and Germans killed Jews
And everybody's bodies are used and abused
Huh, minds are poisoned and souls are polluted
Superiority complex is deep rooted
Leeches and lices, and people got prices
Egomaniacs control the self-righteous
Nothin is sacred and nothin is pure
So the revelation of death is our cure
Peoples in terror, the leaders made a error
And now they can't even look in the mirror
Cause we gotta suffer while things get rougher
And that's the reason why we got to get tougher
So learn from the past and work for the future
And don't be a slave to no computer
Cause the children of Man inherit the land
And the future of the world is in your hands
So just throw your hands in the air
And wave em like you just don't care
And if you believe that you're the future
Scream it out and say oh yeah (Oh yeah)
Oh yeah (Oh yeah)
Rrrrhaa!
Beat Street Breakdown, rrrrhaa!

DwnWthVwls 08-23-2015 08:46 PM

How about first verse of Last Dayz?

Quote:

I'm America's nightmare
young black and just dont give a ****
I just want to get high and live it up
so **** in '95
and why you tryin to slave us
with minimum wages
slammin my niggas up in cages
changing their behaivors
and spittin razors thats outraegeous
smoking moaches is hopeless
we want lazy sofas and sculptures
lady chauffers who **** us
full house and royal flushes
roll with the rush
its the official nas
got bitches with pistols and cash
we living in the last
my theory is "**** it"
sexy niggas get obducted
my corrupted
is conducted
through ghettos
sippin amaretto
hand on the metal
foot on the pedal
never settle
we wear Carolina Herrera
dirty Donna Karan sweaters
wrap over leathers and seudes
gold plated guns and grenades
to blow up
I got news from the informers
I'm trapped in corners
bustin shots at Time-Warner

DwnWthVwls 08-23-2015 08:47 PM

or Poet Laurrete II

Quote:

Yo, why is the Ripper so ill?
That would be a unpardonable breach of confidence for me to reveal
He said "One of these days, all eyes would be on me
When they look up in the sky and see the neon C"
Rhymes inscribed on a nickel disk encased
In glass with an ion beam for longevity
For more then 10 centuries, impressions and memories
The first time machine inventor will mention me
Canibus was a visionary indeed
He believed light could travel in multiples of C
The organic supercomputer that solved the mysteries
Of Klein Kaluza with two blue metric rulers
Liked Cool J, but thought Stephen Jay Gould was cooler
And he never liked to propagate rumors
Smoked Canary Island cigars
Liked American luxury cars and beautiful Asian broads
He had a strong mind, he used to philosophize
About rhymes while he was pruning his bonsai
He claimed that he had written the greatest rhyme of all time
But he would never take it out his archives
He wrote 2 songs per day
And was constantly experimenting with his wordplay
In his youth he did a report on the Sloan Digital Sky Survey
He got an F but he deserved an A
I followed his career from the first day
It seemed a lack of support contributed to his inert ways
I seen him pull in 24 hour workdays
With deferred pay, undeterred by the word "shame"
Public humiliation was the worst pain
He was spinning out of control like a class 5 hurricane
He said he wouldn't want another MC to suffer the same
Especially when there's nothing to gain
He was the illest alive but nobody would face it
He spit until his tongue was too torched to taste it
Properly funded corporations carbon dated his latest creations
To extract the information
They found it utterly amazing
They claimed the body of his work was the same thing as a priceless painting
Never mattered to him that art galleries hated him
Cause Thomas Kinkade called and said he would take 10
Complete enigmas wrapped in puzzles encrypted in language
With sound but without shape or signature
Kept files in his garage on MS-DOS
In a fire-proof pod, he thought it was odd
Outside there was a shed with an Oppenheimer lock
He apparently kept more wax then Madame Tussaud's
We were in total awe, cause it blew our minds
So many rhymes that were intricately designed
He was Poet Laureate of his time
And if you don't mind, I'd like to share some of his rhymes
Alone in my room, looking through the 32X telescope zoom
Adjusting the focus of the moon
One should not assume the philosophy of David Hume
Is nothing more then a subjective conclusion
What is the maximum field rate application?
The runaway glaciation surrounding the ocean basin
Affects the population fluctuation
On a continuous basis but that's just the basics
The juxtaposition of Canibus's position
The precision of something no other has written
Way above and beyond what was intended
The unparalleled malleable enunciation of a sentence
You didn't go to college obviously
I can tell by your ungodly unintelligible terminology
A remarkable odyssey, the rhymes of modern speeds
When the brain orders the body not to breathe
Your competency is not up to speed, you're not in my league
You couldn't possibly be hotter then me
Or oppositely your minus 25 degrees, you'd squeeze
But the condensation makes rifle barrels freeze
Allow me to speak figuratively, nigga please
My intellectual properties are about the size of Greece
Your counselor advised you not to speak
My counselor advised me to keep rhyming until they stopped the beat
In the words of Joseph Heller, "I learned how to write better"
Even though it sort of irked me
He said he didn't understand the process of the imagination
But he felt he was at its mercy
Which explains my point perfectly and certainly reinforces
The reason why nobody's probably ever heard of me
Couldn't understand what I mean by ill
Unless you try to translate what I print to film
This is the line of will, the circle of time
The cycle of eternity, the emergence of 1 line
Academic phonetics render critics tongue-tied
I've personified dry humor of *** laude alumni
A wise man sees failure as progress
A fool divorces his knowledge and misses the logic
And loses his soul in the process
Obsessed with nonsense with a caricature that has no content
My style is masterful, multilateral
I could battle a fool and be naturally cruel
Words of scorn are a disastrous tool
From an existentialist's view I'm a better rapper than you
Grab the mic and rip your physical fabric in 2
My attitude is ****ed up but admirable
Different methods interpreted into different forms
From entirely different perceptions and seen from different norms
Not to spit in the palm there's much more involved
There's much more pieces of the puzzle for you to solve
48 orders of mechanical laws
And rays of creational cause, enhance the cadence of my bars
Maybe I am self-absorbed
But that's the effect, to find the cause you should ask my A&R
Today is what it is, but only because yesterday was what it was
Permitting you heard of Beezlebub
A tale of demons and drugs, pissy drunk in the club
With the DJ doing the needle rub
Chances are you'll never see me son
Yeah I know my name's Canibus but I can't help you if you need a dub
I came to holla at some big booty bitches
And listen to the speakers thump, where you get conceited from?
I'm so nice on the mic, they want to beat me up
Its deep as ****, I ain't seen it all but I've seen enough
Really unbelievable stuff
There's a lot of times when I want to speak but I'm stuck
I should leave this rap **** alone
And kick my incredible rhymes in the privacy of my own home
My imagination is my own
The liberty to speak to freely lyrically on the microphone
With a pen in my hand, I bring motion to the angiogram
And become "Cani-millenia man"
Engrave my back with the emperor's stamp
Been spitting scientific rap since the 17th century began
Trying to escape the wicked empire of Def Jam
And the land where lyrics are bland and heretics hang
Every warrior has an axe to bury
But he has to learn to discern between enemy and adversary
I said to myself, "Germaine this is insane
It's suicide its controlled flight into terrain"
I fought to regain control of the plain, but went up in a ball of flames
And got banned from the hip-hop hall of fame
For two bars I kept hearing in my head
Over and over again, it cost me everything
I'm convinced now that more than the truth is at stake
Where people create language that pretends to communicate
Euphemisms are misunderstood as mistakes
But its a bi-product of the ghetto music we make
From an extroverted point of view I think its too late
Hip Hop has never been the same since '88
Since it became a lucrative profession
There's a misconception that a movement in any direction is progression
Even though the potency of it lessens
Big money industries writing checks to suppress the question
And nobody gives a **** no more, no one goes to the book store
Ever since the confluence of Moore's Law
But I stay in the lab like Niels Bohr
His son Aage, Edward Lawrence, and Leo Szilard
Lyrically I take rap music and turn the knob
To the right full throttle and added panache
Why would I argue with my own conscience over the truth?
That's like me telling myself "don't tell me what to do"
Dialysis and analyses of battle MC's
Sometimes I say things I myself can't believe
My lyrical is so skillfully elliptical
I can understand how it makes you miserable
You wonder why I never let you play your beats for me
Or why I keep my studio enshrouded in secrecy
You wonder whats my infatuation with Alicia Keys
"Canibus why don't you speak to me?"
Yo, I meant it when I said no one can shine on a song that features me
That's why I said it so vehemently
You need to replace the hate with respect
I'm probably the best yet, Poet Laureate

Crudivore 09-07-2015 10:13 PM

Nas - N.Y. State of Mind

Why? If you consider "Genesis" to be the intro to the album, this song is his first real chance to take hip-hop by storm and by god did he do it. He cemented his reputation and exceeded the expectations set for him with what is arguably the greatest hip-hop album of all time (Illmatic).

[Verse 1]

Rappers, I monkey flip 'em with the funky rhythm I be kickin'
Musician, inflictin' composition of pain
I'm like Scarface sniffin' cocaine
Holding an M16, see with the pen I'm extreme, now
Bullet holes left in my peepholes
I'm suited up in street clothes, hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes
Y'all know my steelo with or without the airplay
I keep some E&J, sitting bent up in the stairway
Or either on the corner betting Grants with the cee-lo champs
Laughing at baseheads tryna sell some broken amps
G-packs get off quick, forever niggas talk ****
Reminiscing about the last time the Task Force flipped
Niggas be running through the block shootin'
Time to start the revolution, catch a body, head for Houston
Once they caught us off-guard, the Mac-10 was in the grass and
I ran like a cheetah with thoughts of an assassin
Pick the Mac up, told brothers, "Back up," the Mac spit
Lead was hittin' niggas, one ran – I made him backflip
Heard a few chicks scream, my arm shook, couldn't look
Gave another squeeze, heard it click, "Yo, my **** is stuck"
Try to cock it, it wouldn't shoot, now I'm in danger
Finally pulled it back and saw three bullets caught up in the chamber
So now I'm jetting to the building lobby
And it was full of children probably couldn't see as high as I be
(So what you sayin'?) It's like the game ain't the same
Got younger niggas pulling the triggers bringing fame to their name
And claim some corners, crews without guns are goners
In broad daylight, stickup kids – they run up on us
45's and gauges, Macs, in fact
Same niggas will catch you back-to-back, snatching your cracks in black
There was a snitch on the block getting niggas knocked
So hold your stash 'til the coke price drop
I know this crackhead who said she's got to smoke nice rock
And if it's good, she'll bring you customers in measuring pots
But yo, you gotta slide on a vacation, inside information
Keeps large niggas erasin' and their wives basin'
It drops deep as it does in my breath
I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
Beyond the walls of intelligence, life is defined
I think of crime when I'm in a New York state of mind

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-08-2015 04:00 PM

RZA's verse on GZA's 4th Chamber has always been one of my favorites.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RZA
Aiyo, camouflage chameleon, ninjas scaling your building
No time to grab the gun, they already got your wife and children
A hit was sent from the President to raid your residence
Because you had secret evidence and documents
On how they raped the continents and lynched the prominent
Dominant Islamic, Asiatic black Hebrew
The year 2002 the battle's filled with the Wu
Six million devils just died from the Bubonic Flu
Or the Ebola virus, under the reign of King Cyrus
You can see the weakness of a man right through his iris
Unloyal snakes get thrown in boiling lakes of hot oil
Up boils your skin, chickenheads getting slim like Olive Oyl
Only plant the seed deep inside fertile soil
Fortified with essential vitamin and minerals
Use the sky for a blanket, stuffing clouds inside my pillow
Rolling with the Lamb, Twelve Tribes a 144, 000 chosen
Protons Electrons Always Cause Explosions


Scoob V 09-23-2015 05:49 PM

It's hard to determine what is "the best verse" but you could put together a top 5. Here's mine:
(In no order)
Eminem - Forgot About Dre
Andre 3000 - Pink Matter
Nas - NY State of Mind (1st verse)
Kurupt - Got My Mind Made Up
Inspectah Deck - Bring Da Ruckus

Black Francis 09-23-2015 06:03 PM

Cappadonna's verse in Winter warz.

Crudivore 09-27-2015 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoob V (Post 1637171)
It's hard to determine what is "the best verse" but you could put together a top 5. Here's mine:
(In no order)
Eminem - Forgot About Dre
Andre 3000 - Pink Matter
Nas - NY State of Mind (1st verse)
Kurupt - Got My Mind Made Up
Inspectah Deck - Bring Da Ruckus

Top 5 is a great idea. I love the song Bring Da Ruckus

DwnWthVwls 09-30-2015 01:16 PM

Jean Grae - My Crew

Quote:

I represent for a nation. Thought we was in it together
But I guess it gets strange when money rains in sunny weather
Tougher than leather? We're weaker than glass
And shattered on the side of the road. Try to get a ride, but pass each other fast
The closed aves throw hash, ice, and whips
Have blinded us. Never mind how the mind just trips for glitch
****, niggas. Rich niggas got us in tow
If it's not enough, they gotta put us all on a show
Y’all lost me somewhere between waking and coffee
That **** changed so quick, I didn't blink and it cost me
**** it, it costs us. You even know where we at?
****ed with you. I hear that we can't even open the map
Rap's dead, rap sucks, but thanks to y’all for killin' it
Grillin' it down and spillin’ its guts and fillin' it back up with trash
Wait up… I mean cash
But ain’t the two synonymous with media politics?
(You know they love it)

:P

Black Francis 10-02-2015 09:01 AM

Here's a verse that's constantly in my head.

Quote:


Yo, microphone check one, two, what is this?
The five foot assassin with the roughneck business
I float like gravity, never had a cavity
Got more rhymes than the Winans got family
No need to sweat Arsenio to gain some type of fame
No shame in my game cause I'll always be the same
Styles upon styles upon styles is what I have
You wanna diss the Phifer but you still don't know the half
I sport New Balance sneakers to avoid a narrow path
Mess around with this you catch a size eight up your {ass}
I never half step cause I'm not a half stepper
Drink a lot of soda so they call me Dr. Pepper
Refuse to compete with BS competition
Your name ain't Special Ed so won't you seckle with the mission
I never walk the street thinking it's all about me
Even though deep in my heart, it really could be
I just try my best to like go all out
Some might even say yo shorty black you're buggin' out
- Phife, Buggin out

John Wilkes Booth 10-02-2015 05:53 PM

mos def's verse on thieves in the night is the perfect commentary on fame and the music industry in general... and is one of the greatest hip hop verses of all time for that reason imo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mos Def - Thieves in the Night
Yo, I'm sure that everybody out listenin' agree
That everything you see ain't really how it be
A lot of jokers out runnin' in place, chasin the style
Be a lot goin' on beneath the empty smile
Most cats in my area be lovin' the hysteria
Synthesized surface conceals the interior
America, land of opportunity, mirages and camouflages
More than usually -- speakin' loudly, sayin' nothin'
You confusin' me, you losin' me
Your game is twisted, want me enlisted -- in your usary
Foolishly, most men join the ranks cluelessly
Buffoonishly accept the deception, believe the perception
Reflection rarely seen across the surface of the lookin' glass
Walkin' the street, wonderin' who they be lookin' past
Lookin' gassed with them imported designer shades on
Stars shine bright, but the light -- rarely stays on
Same song, just remixed, different arrangement
Put you on a yacht but they won't call it a slave ship
Strangeness, you don't control this, you barely hold this
Screamin' brand new, when they just sanitized the old ****
Suppose it's, just another clever Jedi mind trick
That they been runnin' across stars through all the time with
I find it's distressin', there's never no in-between
We either niggaz or Kings
We either bitches or Queens
The deadly ritual seems immersed, in the perverse
Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts
Long barrel automatics released in short bursts
The length of black life is treated with short worth
Get yours first, them other niggaz secondary
That type of illin' that be fillin' up the cemetery
This life is temporary but the soul is eternal
Separate the real from the lie, let me learn you
Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain't directed
That's why, we are subjected to the will of the oppressive
Not free, we only licensed
Not live, we just excitin'
Cause the captors.. own the masters.. to what we writin'
Not compassionate, only polite, we well trained
Our sincerity's rehearsed in stage, it's just a game
Not good, but well behaved cause the ca-me-ra survey
most of the things that we think, do, or say
We chasin' after death just to call ourselves brave
But everyday, next man meet with the grave
I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy
I'm tryin' to live life in the sight of God's memory
Like that y'all

ghost on impossible is the most evocative story telling verse i've ever heard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostface - Impossible
Call an ambulance, Jamie been shot, word to Kemit
Don't go Son, nigga you my mother****in heart
Stay still Son, don't move, just think about Keeba
She'll be three in January, your young God needs you
The ambulance is taking too long
Everybody get the **** back, excuse me bitch, gimme your jack
One, seven one eight, nine one one, low battery, damn
Blood comin out his mouth, he bleedin badly
Nahhh Jamie, don't start that ****
Keep your head up, if you escape hell we gettin ****ed up
When we was eight, we went to Bat Day to see the Yanks
In Sixty-Nine, his father and mines, they robbed banks
He pointed to the charm on his neck
With his last bit of energy left, told me rock it with respect
I opened it, seen the God holdin his kids
Photogenic, tears just burst out my wig
Plus he dropped one, oh ****, here come his Old Earth
With no shoes on, screamin holdin her breasts with a gown on
She fell and then lightly touched his jaw, kissed him
Rubbed his hair, turned around the ambulance was there
Plus the blue coats, Officer Lough, took it as a joke
Weeks ago he strip-searched the God and gave him back his coke
Bitches yellin, Beenie Man swung on Helen
In the back of a cop car, dirty tarts are tellin
But suddenly a chill came through it was weird
Felt like my man, was cast out my heaven now we share
Laid on the stretcher, blood on his Wally's like ketchup
Deep like the full assassination with a sketch of it
It can't be, from Yohoo to Lee's
Second grade humped the teachers, about to leave
Finally this closed chapter, comes to an end
He was announced, pronounced dead, y'all, at twelve ten


(ghost's verse starts at 2:40)

DwnWthVwls 10-02-2015 08:48 PM

Impossible is my favorite song on Forever.

RL Clown 10-27-2015 05:16 PM

Check out Verse 3 of these lyrics: EMINEM LYRICS - Sing For The Moment (Eminem - Sing for the Moment)

NikoGotGame 11-25-2015 03:37 PM

"Beauty in the struggle, happiness in the success"- j cole

Kingsc23 12-06-2015 11:41 PM

Damn this is a good question. First verse in Rakim's Microphone fiend.

Black Francis 12-07-2015 07:05 AM

Ahmad - Back in the day

Quote:

I remember (back in the days)
When I just a little ******-o
I looked up to my bigger bro
Begged if I could kick it so
When he went out with girls I could go tagging along
Nagging if she had a sis maybe could mack a baby hoodrat
Y'all remember way back then, when it was 1985
All the way live, I think I was about ten
One of those happy little niggas singing the blues
That be always trying to bag with the shag and karate shoes
Sayin "Yo momma black; his momma this, his momma that"
Then he get mad and wanna scrap
We stay mad about, ten minutes then it's like back on the bike
To play hide and go get it with the younger hoes by the bungaloes
Then switch to playing ding dong ditch, when that gets
Old and too cold to hack it, threw on a bomber jacket.

ReachForPeach 12-10-2015 12:28 AM

RA the rugged man in Uncommon Valor got sick flow

Sergio94mj 12-11-2015 10:30 PM

hellooooo

mojofilter 12-12-2015 07:52 PM

"Boats and Hoes" lol

Mister Jip 12-13-2015 12:38 PM

busta rhymes - scenario
redman - the headbanger
rakim - follow the leader (his verses are always on point)
pharoahe monch - oh no
jeru - come clean (verse 1)
phife dawg - buggin out
mos def - mathmatics (verse 2)

Hip-Hop Homework 12-15-2015 07:11 PM

Canibus - 2000 B.C.
 
This whole album was a clinic on hardcore lyricism.

But the self-titled track ("2000 B.C.") goes hard, non-stop, from start-to-finish... It's not for everybody since his appeal was mainly to battle cats but that's what gave him his edge.

it's like takin' a ride onna rocket ship to break the landspeed record at the Utah Salt Flats...strap in and don't look back.

Canibus is my favorite MC of all time. When that dude was in his prime he was a freakin' microphone titan. Son was a rare culmination of outstanding rhyme schemes, delivery and breath control, with innovative metaphors and clever wordplay.

DwnWthVwls 12-15-2015 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hip-Hop Homework (Post 1660720)
innovative metaphors and clever wordplay.

Not many people appreciate that around here.

I think Master Thesis is my favorite song by him with 100 bars or Poet Laureate II tied for second.

But this is absolutely INSANE I just wish I had the opportunity to actually play with it..

Quote:

Poet Laureate Infinity:
A concept invented by Germaine Williams in 2007. The song contains 5 different 200 bar layers, for a total of thousand bars. It was originally displayed on a virtual mixing board online. Essentially, you would press play and all 5 sets of 200 bars would play at once, with 4 muted.
You could at any time, mute one, and unmute a different one. And do this every single bar, and no matter what they would flow to make a new rhyme. As it was designed to make "infinite" rhymes there were countless different mixes or songs that could be created.


Infinite rhyming consists of layers that share the exact same rhyme scheme and flow. By putting each layer into a separate channel of a mixer, it gives the user the ability to switch between layers seamlessly. This while still maintaining a coherent rhyme structure, content, rhythm and flow. Thereby allowing users to create their own songs, or mixes, in an infinite number of ways. This video displays how it was recorded, but as stated above, you can create totally new content with it.

Layer 1, Couplet 1:
I spit rhymes for your pleasure/ You listen at your leisure/
I only record it once you listen to it forever/

Layer 2, Couplet 1:
I spit at a thousand KIPS, kilo tonnes of pressure/
Every letter is measured/ in such a way you will remember/

Layer 1 0:20
Layer 2 11:02
Layer 3 21:45
Layer 4 32:27
Layer 5 43:09

"I guess you can't write an infinite rhyme with a finite mind
That's why rhymes like mine mystify mankind" -Canibus, 2001
Poet Laureate Infinity 1000 Bars

Mister Jip 12-18-2015 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hip-Hop Homework (Post 1660720)
This whole album was a clinic on hardcore lyricism.

But the self-titled track ("2000 B.C.") goes hard, non-stop, from start-to-finish... It's not for everybody since his appeal was mainly to battle cats but that's what gave him his edge.

it's like takin' a ride onna rocket ship to break the landspeed record at the Utah Salt Flats...strap in and don't look back.

Canibus is my favorite MC of all time. When that dude was in his prime he was a freakin' microphone titan. Son was a rare culmination of outstanding rhyme schemes, delivery and breath control, with innovative metaphors and clever wordplay.

Has there ever been a more disappointing rapper then canibus?..the guy is considered a bit of a joke. 2nd round KO is a Hip Hop classic but LL killied his career in the end so canibus didnt really win. and then he starts taking shots at Eminem and has absolutely no chance because of the eminem bandwagon. And then he got absolutely annihilated in a battle against dizaster, its painful to watch..he pulls out a notepad, twat.


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Hip-Hop Homework 12-18-2015 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister Jip (Post 1661619)
Has there ever been a more disappointing rapper then canibus?..the guy is considered a bit of a joke. 2nd round KO is a Hip Hop classic but LL ended up killing his career in the end so he didnt really win. and then he starts taking shots at Eminem and has absolutely no chance because of the eminem bandwagon. and then he got absolutely annihilated in a battle against dizaster, its painful to watch..he pulls out a notepad, twat.


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The guy is self-made...he might not have the commercial success or mainstream appeal you might use as a measuring stick for success but his career was never killed by LL.

I think Canibus in his prime, if he would've stricken back at Eminem would've bodied Em. Em is nice but so was Canibus and he has an entire body of work to support that.

The whole Diz thing...yeah, I mean. I know. He's an old lion and apparently don't give a "F" anymore. But considering him a disappointment for doing that well into the twilight of his career is kinda like expecting an alzheimers patient to look both ways before crossing the street.

If you think he's disappointing, you either a. haven't heard everything he's put out or b. have mismanaged expectations and have heard some catalog of hip-hop that managed to be wonderful without the likes of Canibus...

3 of his first 4 albums were extremely good, classic by my measure. And he has a plethora of cameo appearances on pretty much a who's who in hip-hop from 1997-2002. This guy has worked with the likes of Nas, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Common, Chino XL, Ras Kass, KRS-ONE, Inspectah Deck, pretty much all of flip-mode, Big Pun...if you consider that more than 50% of most people's top 10 lyricists wanted to or have worked with Canibus. Even as subjective of a debate as it is, his greatness almost becomes an objective reality that even the most hardened of critics can't deny.

I could go on but I trust that should suffice to sway your opinion back to where it should be?

Can-I-Bus, 2000 B.C., and Mic Club...

And here, give this a listen for the more obscure cameos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUXk...e-cU2CJ9fsl2_v

Just sayin'...

You don't have to like Canibus but to say he's more disappointing than anybody?

I mean, eminem still makes music and I've heard the shady records channel...Eminem is just as disappointing and while Em never committed the battle faux pas 'Bus did with Diz, it doesn't make Canibus or his career anymore disappointing than the next artist who's in the twilight of their career and resisting the transition to mainstream obscurity.

I say this outta respect because it seems like you see Canibus through a lens of the bad publicity he's caught instead of the through the lens of the outstanding contributions he made in his first 5 years of hip-hop, which is still being remixed by producers to this day because that dude contributed more than you think.

Mister Jip 12-18-2015 10:50 AM

Twilight of his career? he never had a career because he screwed it up. I think he is disappointing because its obvious that he is a great rapper but he has never delivered to his full potential..when he first came out everyone thought he was the best. no one could touch him lyrically but then he ****ed around with LL and got blackballed and his career has never bounced back. If he was smart he would have just shut his mouth and let LL say whatever on the track. no one even knew LLs verse was about him anyway until he opened his mouth. he has had some great guest appearances but i don't rate any of his albums..and he always blames everyone else when his albums flop. The fact is he has mostly tried to base his career around dissing bigger name hip hop acts, riding on there coat tails to keep himself relevant but he has pretty much failed every time..even the link you posted was a dis to Jay -Z.

Hip-Hop Homework 12-18-2015 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister Jip (Post 1661644)
Twilight of his career? he never had a career because he screwed it up. I think he is disappointing because its obvious that he is a great rapper but he has never delivered to his full potential..when he first came out everyone thought he was the best. no one could touch him lyrically but then he ****ed around with LL and got blackballed and his career has never bounced back. If he was smart he would have just shut his mouth and let LL say whatever on the track. no one even knew LLs verse was about him anyway until he opened his mouth. he has had some great guest appearances but i don't rate any of his albums..and he always blames everyone else when his albums flop. The fact is he has mostly tried to base his career around dissing bigger name hip hop acts, riding on there coat tails to keep himself relevant but he has pretty much failed every time..even the link you posted was a dis to Jay -Z.

The link was a playlist of a lot of his non-album stuff, remixes, and lesser-known tracks. I uploaded the Jay-Z diss by request.

I don't agree that Canibus has tried to make a career off the strength of dissing others...he used to be a genuine battle cat and to not diss people would be a denial to his origins as an artist. Everybody in the game has dissed somebody or another at some point so to hold that against him exclusively is kinda hypocritical if you're not holding it against everybody else just the same. But if that's how you feel--it's cool. I'm not here to impose my views on others but hope sharing provides an expanded perspective.

Back to your other points tho...a commercial album distributed my MCA/UNIVERSAL is how they treat blackballed artists?

LL is far from responsible for what happened to Canibus. He still hadda major-label record deal 2 YEARS (almost 3) after the LL beef. And for the record Canibus ate LL, it's subjective...from I'm pretty sure the majority of the battle cat community would agree by measure of a consensus of criteria, which I tend to agree with as far as what makes a good battle verse. "2nd Round KO" is a clinic on how to destroy another artist..."Ether" and "The Takeover" sounded like diss cuts from cub scout summer camps by comparison to the ferocity and level of intimate attacks illustrated in "2nd Round KO," don'tchu agree?

Yeah, did Canibus blame wyclef for the commercial failure of Can-I-Bus? YES! A resounding yes as it is in some of the skits on 2000 B.C.. BUT!!! That's Canibus' fault for believing the hype. It might have been a commercial failure but artistically I think Can-I-Bus is a monument to ingenuity...nigganometry? Get Retarded? Channel Zero?? They might not have had mainstream appeal in the wake of contemporary sounds like Jigga & DMX who were on the rise at the time. But c'mon, how many times you revisit It's Dark & Hell Is Hot now? Or Hard Knock Life vol. 2? I STILL listen to Can-I-Bus material...because it's still unique. Channel Zero alone paved the way for illuminati rap today, in my humble opinion. I don't think Can-I-Bus was a failure...I think people felt let down because they had mismanaged expectations and secondly were close-minded and couldn't appreciate something different but ingenious in its own rite. I was vicked by the hype too...but when I started listening to music more critically and independent of mass opinion and listened to Can-I-Bus again some years later--I fell in love with it. Maybe you might too after all this time?? If you haven't heard it since 1998, almost 2 decades ago...you might be in for a treat now.

I think, in fact, that Canibus defeated himself by subscribing to the hype that Can-I-Bus was a failure because everybody expected more of the same sound from the 1996-1997 mixtape circuit releases he had left in the wake of his rise...but it was so unique and that's what makes it stand out as an artistic success. His rhymes didn't suffer, they're still ingenious but they're on some different level 'cause he left a lotta bragadoccio out and started rhyming about conscious stuff like "Channel Zero" or "Special Forces" and "Buckingham Palace."

I mean, I'm not trying to sway your opinion...if you genuinely believe these things, I respect your right to do so but I hope you have considered all aspects of the equation here.

I am obviously biased towards Canibus but I keep it hunnid enough to admit that Canibus has made some jack moves and that he's released a lotta wack stuff...but that pales in comparison to 3/4 of his first albums and his lyrical tear in the mixtape/cameo circuit from 1996-2001. If you invent the a-bomb but also the furby...people should remember you for the a-bomb. Smell me??

I still respect your individual opinion even tho I may not agree with that and I hope this doesn't start some internet feud or you have static with me after this...

P3@cE!
I love hip-hop and wanna share that love...

I Respect the art form, you know?

Mister Jip 12-18-2015 12:21 PM

haha typical of a canibus fan expecting some static ;) it's all good i to respect your opinion. we just hip hop fans. no drama.
we can agree that 2nd round KO was a classic moment in Hip Hop.he will always be remembered for that, but that song is his only real legacy in the game i think thats a bit lame for a rapper of his caliber .
He should have known his place and just kept doing his thing instead of being a bitch all the time. If you listen back to LL's reply to 2RKO, its good as well. He didnt lose face imo. decent response to such a brutal attack. and time has told who was right. I admit canibus did win that battle, but he never wins the war.

Hip-Hop Homework 12-18-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Jip (Post 1661668)
haha typical of a canibus fan expecting some static ;) it's all good i to respect your opinion. we just hip hop fans. no drama.
we can agree that 2nd round KO was a classic moment in Hip Hop.he will always be remembered for that, but that song is his only real legacy in the game i think thats a bit lame for a rapper of his caliber .
He should have known his place and just kept doing his thing instead of being a bitch all the time. If you listen back to LL's reply to 2RKO, its pretty good as well. He didnt lose face imo. decent response to such a brutal attack. and time has told who was right. I admit canibus did win that battle, but he never wins the war.

Iunno, man...

"Cenoir Studies" over that metallica collabo with the Trans-Siberian orchestra instrumental???

That song is stupid dope!!!

PIN MY MEDALS UPON MY CHEST/
SO I CAN LEFT-RIGHT-LEFT INTO CERTAIN DEATH/

gaaaaawlly, somebody get an extinguisher...this man's on fire!!!

I love Canibus, he happens to be extremely underappreciated for his rhyme schemes and cadence/delivery and his god-like ability to stay on-topic with a subject

Mister Jip 12-18-2015 01:22 PM

Its dope, but he's to hit or miss. and because he's done such dumb things i cant take him seriously.
I think chali 2na is the most under appreciated MC i can think of.


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