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[MERIT] 08-23-2018 07:15 PM

Tom MacDonald
 
Tom MacDonald

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...1518197956507/
[Despite his douchebag-like appearance, I assure that his content is worthwhile. Please don't judge the book by its cover.]


A friend of mine recently introduced me to the 29-year-old Canadian rapper Tom MacDonald. His raps and themes seem to go against the grain, questioning social norms and the status quo. I'm not super keen on his delivery, but the content is definitely there. From what I can surmise, he has 7 albums to his credit [Genius says 8]. I will post music videos in the next post.

https://i.scdn.co/image/0f8ea928cbe9...cd793244896a70
^ LeeAnn's Son (stylized as "LEEANNSSXN") [2014]

https://t2.genius.com/unsafe/879x0/h....960x960x1.jpg
^ Bad Dream Mad Again II [2014]

https://direct.rhapsody.com/imageser...23/500x500.jpg
^ Dream People And The Whiskey Wars [2015]

https://t2.genius.com/unsafe/879x0/h....957x957x1.jpg
^ MacBeth [2015]

https://is2-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/t.../600x600bf.jpg
^ See You Tomorrow [2015]

https://t2.genius.com/unsafe/879x0/h....500x500x1.jpg
^ Therapy [2017]

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...pg?format=500w
^ Deathreats [2018]

LINKS: Official Website / YouTube 1 / YouTube 2 / Facebook / Instagram / Twitter / Genius

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OccultHawk 08-23-2018 07:45 PM

Nice!

Thanks for the well- delivered presentation

If I change is a trippy video -kiss I liked it

[MERIT] 08-23-2018 07:53 PM

I love "Dear Rappers." I want to hear more from him in that vein.

Lucem Ferre 08-23-2018 09:52 PM

Tom MacDonald is corny trash.

[MERIT] 08-23-2018 10:03 PM

He's not for everyone, obviously.

Lucem Ferre 08-23-2018 10:08 PM

The only people that I know of that like him are juggalos. Juggalos that like him and Hopsin.

"I didn't put your neck in no noose" LOL.

[MERIT] 08-23-2018 10:23 PM

If he would ghost-write for someone who actually has some vocal talent, that would be awesome.

Lucem Ferre 08-23-2018 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1990257)
If he would ghost-write for someone who actually has some vocal talent, that would be awesome.

Dude, his lyrics are the worst part.

**** him, his lyrics and his white victim complex. He's an embarrassment to all of us beautiful braided beasts.

[MERIT] 08-23-2018 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1990259)
Dude, his lyrics are the worst part.

**** him, his lyrics and his white victim complex. He's an embarrassment to all of us beautiful braided beasts.

I don't see it that way. We don't know what he has experienced in his life that has led him to this point. Also, he has a point. If you look up "Black Pride" and "White Pride" on Wikipedia, you get VASTLY different connotations:

"Black pride is a movement in response to dominant white cultures and ideologies that encourages black people to celebrate black culture and embrace their African heritage."

"White pride is a motto primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations in order to signal racist or racialist viewpoints."


That's complete fucking bullshit, and you know it. They are saying that it's okay for blacks to be proud of their ancestry, but not for white people. I'm not saying that white people haven't done some fucked up shit, but so have black people, and every other race on this planet. Is it right to judge everyone by the sins of their ancestors?

Lucem Ferre 08-24-2018 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1990261)
I don't see it that way. We don't know what he has experienced in his life that has led him to this point. Also, he has a point. If you look up "Black Pride" and "White Pride" on Wikipedia, you get VASTLY different connotations:

"Black pride is a movement in response to dominant white cultures and ideologies that encourages black people to celebrate black culture and embrace their African heritage."

"White pride is a motto primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations in order to signal racist or racialist viewpoints."


That's complete fucking bullshit, and you know it. They are saying that it's okay for blacks to be proud of their ancestry, but not for white people. I'm not saying that white people haven't done some fucked up shit, but so have black people, and every other race on this planet. Is it right to judge everyone by the sins of their ancestors?

Oh noooooooooooo. You're such a victim.

The biased definitions provided by google hurt your feeeeeeeeeelings.

Nobody wants you to be proud of being a caucaaaaaaaaasian.

This is the pinnacle of racism, the most ****ed up atrocity happening in America right now.

Cops shooting unarmed black people, the mass genocides of natives, tearing apart Mexican families, the continued hate crimes towards middle easterners, none of this compares to the problems of hurtful comments some people say about white people.

[MERIT] 08-24-2018 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1990291)
Oh noooooooooooo. You're such a victim.

The biased definitions provided by google hurt your feeeeeeeeeelings.

Nobody wants you to be proud of being a caucaaaaaaaaasian.

This is the pinnacle of racism, the most ****ed up atrocity happening in America right now.

Cops shooting unarmed black people, the mass genocides of natives, tearing apart Mexican families, the continued hate crimes towards middle easterners, none of this compares to the problems of hurtful comments some people say about white people.

I didn't realize that there could only be 1 injustice at a time in this world. Thanks for pointing that out.

Lucem Ferre 08-24-2018 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1990492)
I didn't realize that there could only be 1 injustice at a time in this world. Thanks for pointing that out.

The **** that Thomas talks about isn't anywhere near as bad as majority of the atrocities that racism has caused yet he still acts like it is. He paints himself as being a grand victim for being white, desperately tries to prove he isn't racist, but at the same time he's never in his life spoke up for people dealing with actual oppression caused by racism.

[MERIT] 08-25-2018 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1990548)
The **** that Thomas talks about isn't anywhere near as bad as majority of the atrocities that racism has caused yet he still acts like it is. He paints himself as being a grand victim for being white, desperately tries to prove he isn't racist, but at the same time he's never in his life spoke up for people dealing with actual oppression caused by racism.

You see it as "playing the victim," while he [I'm assuming] sees it as him trying to assimilate himself into the rap game/culture. If you are okay with black people saying the N word, then you should be okay with a white person rapping about how they, SPECIFICALLY AS AN ARTIST & A HUMAN BEING, have been treated whilst in the industry.

Lucem Ferre 08-25-2018 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1990573)
You see it as "playing the victim," while he [I'm assuming] sees it as him trying to assimilate himself into the rap game/culture. If you are okay with black people saying the N word, then you should be okay with a white person rapping about how they, SPECIFICALLY AS AN ARTIST & A HUMAN BEING, have been treated whilst in the industry.

No, he's definitely playing the victim. Don't dance around it.


How does his victim complex relate to rappers saying 'nostalgia'?

[MERIT] 08-25-2018 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1990597)
No, he's definitely playing the victim. Don't dance around it.


How does his victim complex relate to rappers saying 'nostalgia'?

You're just one big face-palm.

Frownland 08-26-2018 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1990573)
If you are okay with black people saying the N word, then you should be okay with a white person rapping about how they, SPECIFICALLY AS AN ARTIST & A HUMAN BEING, have been treated whilst in the industry.

How is that even the same thing or an accurate description of this corny cracker?

grindy 08-26-2018 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1990261)
I don't see it that way. We don't know what he has experienced in his life that has led him to this point. Also, he has a point. If you look up "Black Pride" and "White Pride" on Wikipedia, you get VASTLY different connotations:

"Black pride is a movement in response to dominant white cultures and ideologies that encourages black people to celebrate black culture and embrace their African heritage."

"White pride is a motto primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations in order to signal racist or racialist viewpoints."


That's complete fucking bullshit, and you know it. They are saying that it's okay for blacks to be proud of their ancestry, but not for white people. I'm not saying that white people haven't done some fucked up shit, but so have black people, and every other race on this planet. Is it right to judge everyone by the sins of their ancestors?

Racial pride as a concept is generally retarded, black or white, but if you look at the people espousing those, the black pride guys are usually okay, while the white pride guys are dumb, whiny pieces of ****.

Lucem Ferre 08-28-2018 12:14 PM

I gave Thomas another try and watched exposure and here is my response to it.

1. Tons of gangsters go to college. It's called bettering your situation. Look at 2Chainz. Grew up in a ****ed up situation and pulled himself out and put himself through college. He's very open and proud of it. ****ting on gangster rappers for doing that is counterproductive to the message you're trying to send. Maybe because you don't actually give a ****. This isn't about exposure, it's about 'talking up'. That's when you trash people who are doing better than you for attention. You find some reason to belittle them to feed your superiority complex.

2. The media isn't putting out these drug addicts to make drug addicts. They're jumping on the opportunity to make money because this is what's becoming popular.Just as every trend does, the drug addicted soundcloud style comes straight from the underground. It gained popularity because kids relate to it. These rappers aren't industry plants or causers of our culture but rather symptoms. They are a reflection of an epidemic of mental illness and the opiate crises. A lot of them are open about their depression and addiction. Many of them tell their fans not to follow in their foot steps. for somebody who claims to be 'conscious' you fail to recognize or address any of this, instead opting out for a way to talk down on these kids. This isn't about righteousness, it's about self righteousness and feeling holier than though.

3. This whole "I'm so edgy and offensive, watch out, I speak my mind" farce is just a delusional appeal to your ego. Sad reality is that YOU are the one who can't handle other opinions. YOU"RE the one telling people not to speak their opinion of YOU. YOU made a whole song WHINING about other people's opinions of you. He'res a concept you might not truly understand. You're ability and freedom to have opinions will elicit other opinions. This whole act you're putting on is an ironic self defensive mechanism to cover your own inability to accept other points of view. To the sad point where you literally admit to not wanting to have discussions about your opinion and saying that you want people who disagree with you to be silent with out a hint of self awareness to truly realize the irony and hypocrisy of this song. And that's why we think you're ****ing corny. You get lumped into the Hopsin and Hed PE category of people that act preachy and holier than though pretending to be conscious with out a hint of self consciousness.

4. They are not wearing dresses to feminize men. This is the most toxic and sexist piece of bull**** because you ****s imply that women are weak. They're just products of a new nihilistic movement of hip hop inspired by rock stars that came before them. They're challenging cultural stereo types by saying, "hey, I can look like this and still be strong, and still be a man".

[MERIT] 09-23-2018 02:13 PM

Apparently Tom MacDonald is beefing with Violent J from The Insane Clown posse over Nova Rockefeller [Tom MacDonald's girlfriend].

Lucem Ferre 09-23-2018 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1999612)
Apparently Tom MacDonald is beefing with Violent J from The Insane Clown posse over Nova Rockefeller [Tom MacDonald's girlfriend].

1 this is old. 2 THAT was Thomas? LOL!

[MERIT] 09-23-2018 03:08 PM

I just heard about it, so it was new to me. Also, I'm getting kind of sick of Tom MacDonald. He has content, but his cadence and the way he raps, it's like he doesn't give a shit.

Waddles 09-24-2018 01:37 AM

He has some good messages, and some not so good ones. He's got more talent than I can muster so I'm not going to throw my stones too hard, but after listening to the videos in this thread, I'm good.

Mindfulness 02-14-2021 03:21 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VF7gCRhC1o

tman32000 09-04-2021 12:32 PM

Tom Mcdonald
 
This guy tell all the truths in his songs!
first one is Brainwashed
and next one is fake woke

best songs ive heard in a long time!

The Batlord 09-04-2021 03:34 PM

Of course Merit liked Tom McDonald. I hope Tommy boy comes out with a song about how Ashkenazi Jews aren't real Jews just for him.

SATIVA HYBRID 01-11-2022 03:47 PM

i can't find the right words to describe it but dude pretty much gives me mad covert racism vibes

Frownland 01-11-2022 05:06 PM

More like overt

Mindfulness 10-01-2023 02:58 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANXtimCb6Y4
here for the nova verse!

Interloper91 03-27-2024 09:09 PM

to me this is an example of music becoming more about more specific identity politics than the past. And more cynically.

AllTimeDefyer 04-01-2024 06:42 AM

A good selection


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