I'm not disagreeing with that at all.
I'm saying that SLTS is overplayed, ****, and overrated.
Any other song is easily as good as SLTS

Oh then i guess we can all gay kids in the 1800s the first punks?

You didn't bother to describe what makes a grunge band grunge either.

Is that really hard to understand?... Everything in bold is all metaphors for gods sake, of course its gonna sound obscure, that dosent mean it is persay, the "load up on guns, bring your friends" at the begining is a reference to the songs main plot...The song is about a youth gang that prepares for a shootout, and the songs protoganist is confused about weither or not he should leave the gang.

Maybe that will help a little, but if you dont even know what Cobain had in mind when he wrote it (like many people) then of course it wont make any sense to you, that dosent mean it wont make sense to others.

I agree that the Chorus lyrics not in bold make little sense, and Kurt himself said that was intentional, he said those lyrics of the song didnt directly mean anything, but he put them in the song to somewhat confuse people into trying to figure out what it means, as a joke, kinda like what John Lennon did in I Am The Walrus.

This is ridiculous. Nirvana had better songs than SLTS. These bands were grunge, BEFORE Nirvana....therefore Grunge existed before Nirvana, it just wasnt the "cool" thing

Shut the fuck up and anwser my question damnit.
What makes a grunge band grunge? You obviously know how to describe a grunge band since your using the term.

Too bad you are very off on the meaning of the song.
The song is about the apathy of the youth

Must you get angry.....
A debate does not mean someone has to be angry
You will find that not everyone agrees with you on all things

Grunge is a style of music....a subgenre
What makes punk music punk, and pop music pop

Thats the theme of the song, i was talking about the plot you dumbass.

If you cant even tell the difference between themes and plots, you should leave.

And the gang plot is tied to the apathy of youth theme, idiot.

Then explain to us all the things that Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains and Soundgarden have in common.

That too^

I'll answer this question and thats it im not familar with pop so blah. I want you to answer my question next and not go off subject about something else.

I'll get to you MIsfits but first....

boo boo,

You are incorrect. Whether or not the plot is about gang war is irrelavent. The song is a critism of youth. That is what the song is about, how it is conveyed doesn't matter. What you say you expect others to accept without question, I can disagree with you without being called an idiot and a dumbass. You get very bitchy when someone disagrees with you and it is unneccessary. The bit about "I Am The Walrus" proves to me that somethings you say are completely made up. That song is about.....nothing. The first 2 lines were written completely at random while on an Acid Trip. The following 2 lines were written the same way weeks later. The chorus is in reference to Humpty Dumpty and thrown in as another "clue" about Pauls amazing Publicity Stunt. If anythhing the song is just rantings on John's love of Louis Carrol which explains the refrences to "Through The Looking Glass"

All of this doesnt matter though.
The question was not "What song started a revolution"
I simply named an overrated song.
SLTS is overrated. The song is ****e.
Nirvana...and other grunge bands had better

EDIT: and boo boo....I will say that overtime I have come to respect your posts and the information they contain. 9 times out of 10 you are right. Lets not turn this into "BUNGALOWBILL IS A TROLL"
I am allowed to disagree

Hey dude dont lie.

"They have better songs...I do not know why this is the one that is the eyes of MTV defines them"

You said that too you didnt "simply named an overrated song."

EDIT: :wave: nighty night musicbanter im going to bed.Ill reply to yer post in the morn or afternoon

and if someone says we were spamming we were dicussing a post in the topic therefore its not spam so stfu.

Grunge was a style and an attitude just like punk. The music was directed towards teenagers. Angst ridden, dealing with issues that youth face. Usually characterized by "dirty" guitar tones.

I simply said it was overrated. Your the one who broght up that it started a revolution.

BYE BYE MY LOVE :wave:

I like how most of the posts after my original one were done with at least half (but probably full) spite toward me as if I said my comment to be inflammatory.

To Hookers, the only intelligent responce I've seen to it thus far Ill say this, to be he seemed to be a sub-par beatles. I just don't think any of his songs are very good, the come off as 70's sunny and avant garde but they were things that just didn't hold up. I don't like Mott the Hooples "all the young dudes" and I think he was a supbar beatles. I confess that I don't know everything, but I ask why would I when the "best " songs are painful to geth through.

Space Oddity could have been a beatles song without question, thats a Macca rip off to me. Im sorry I just don't like him.

The songs lack of coherence was intentional, Lennon was mocking people who OVERANALIZE the meanings of songs, quite like what you are doing now...SLTS however, does have a meaning, and only the "a Mosquito, my Libido" lyrics have no real meaning, those were just filler lyrics to make the song click, which is the kinda thing Lennon and Maccartney did, but when they do it, its ok, yet when Cobain does it, its just bad, give me a break.

Sigh, I got to page 4 and decided I should lock three of you in a room and light the house on fire.

The thread was Overrated Songs. The criteria are as follows:

A song must be highly regarded.

It must not want such regard

Must be touted by people without a clue

PLastered all over radio.

I didn't need the extra horse****. I think people should be forced to read the ****ing topic before they post.

There are other Nirvana songs that are BETTER
That is all
Like Big3 said
SLTS is touted
SLTS is overplayed
SLTS overshadows

That is all:D

Wikipedia?... Give me a break, you call that a credible enough source?...Anyone can edit their articles at any given time, for all we know, you could have wrote that...THRASH METAL?...HARDCORE PUNK?...Name me one Pearl Jam song that you would describe as hardcore punk influenced, let alone thrash metal influenced...Theres thrash metal influence in Nirvanas music?... Give me a break...THE BANDS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON...Except for the long hair, flannel shirts and being from seattle, and thats what really defines the music isnt it? :rolleyes:

Nirvana is mostly punk influenced, with some metal and alternative rock influences, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains have little to no punk influences at all, and they are mostly metal influenced...As for Pearl Jam, theres nothing metal about them, only some punk influences, they are strictly alternative rock and hard rock influenced...Then there are these guys.

The Melvins
Green River
Temple of the Dog
Tad
Mudhoney
Mother Love Bone
Screaming Trees
L7

These bands have little to nothing in common except for being in the right place at the right time.

im back and showery clean

Cool your F*cking jets its not like we went totally off topic and started dicussing anal sex we dicussed if that song was really overated its a forum if every post was on topic no one would stay here everyone would leave it would be boring and not a community. We wouldn't know eachother because we wouldn't be aloud to argue we'd just know. He likes *this this this this* dislikes *this this this this* not what makes this person tick,etc...

Not all songs have a direct meaning. Chris cornell wrote black hole sun with no meaning whatsoever, he just came up with a bunch of random words that really make no sense. What's funny, is there's all these people out there tryin to figure it out when cornell himself says there's no hidden meaning to be found.

^Just like Purple's Black Night.

Skater Boi by that damn bastard little canadian girl. Compare that to songs that were out at the time it's ****. It's like comparing spam to an orgasm. It got too much airplay if you ask me and WAY to much coverage.

No absolutly not, if it was a page worth of posts, I'd disregard, but its the same stupid bitch fight for 13 pages, and its not even a new interesting bitch fight, its the same think Urban had been fighting with newbs over since I showed up here.

You don't need to say something like anal sex to have it be off topic, you need to argue something like "is grunge a genre" (which isn't overrated songs) or who nirvana's influences are (which isn't overrated songs).

I won't sit here and say I don't drag things left of center occationally, but you three are the only posters for miles. You sir, should heat your jets up, my point was valid however :offtopic: it was...

I have to agree with BungalowBill, I think Smells Like Teen Spirit is a pretty dull song, and unremarkable in every way.

I love how it turned into a scientific debate with everyone on all sides trying to wave their penises at one another in a display of all empowering knowledge though.

I love Radiohead, but you're dead right. I did a cd of their stuff for a friend who hadn't heard much of their music, and didn't even entertain the notion of putting 'Creep' on it.

O-zone - Dragostea din tei

Well, Misfits asked me to help him out on this arguement, which i did, Wookiees keep their promise's. ;)

Anything by

Green Day
Simple Plan
My Chemical Romance- Im Not Okay (I Promise)
Coldplay- Fix You

i'd go with those, but insted of just that one coldplay song id go for just everything by them!!!

that one song by brittney spears

Yeah, it's not that it isn't a good song it's just that it is extrmely overated compared to a lot of thier other stuff

Meh. Hotel California? That song is amazing, that's the only reason it got so popular... that's the thing... you can always tell the good song from the bad, because people know about the good songs and they stay around a while. Just like hotel California and Stairway to Heaven. Boulevard of Broken dreams will be around a while... I see what you're saying though... some songs may not carry as much weight as pure, unadulterated catchiness... but that's still just personal opinion.

Not really, everyone has a different opinion of what makes good music and bad music, when it comes to music, theres nothing official about it.

:beer: :clap:

In my opinion pretty much all of steve miller band's stuff is overrated. even kids that listen to rap all the time and have no musical knowledge all know the song joker by smb, i have lost interest in the group solely because their songs are played way too much, and they arent really that great in my opinion.

i am sick of hearing stairway to heaven

its not a bad song at all its just over-played the more you hear it being bombarded at you the less you appreciate it

songs like stairway to heaven i only like to listen to every now and again because then it always sounds better.

i have a relationship with the Who album quadrophenia in that way too. i only listen to the entire album four or five times a year - and only on vinyl

i rarely listen to the songs from Quadrophenia by themselves either - unles their live, ill listen to the live versions because theyre different to the original quadrophenia

some people may say that im missing out on it but i know every note from that album as well or even better than from any other album i listen to on a regular basis

there's nothing worse than hearing a great song way too much. That is why i started taking such a liking to the b sides of zeppelin, their almost cooler in a way simply becuase they arent played near as much. There's a classic rock station down here that gets the lead out every night and they play their b sides, but other than that, all i hear playin on stations is stairway, dazed and confused, ramble on, black dog, misty mountain, etc.

here are some honorable mentions of some great songs that ive heard way too much:

1. freebird
2. light my fire
3. pour some sugar on me (never liked it the first time ive heard it, let alone the 500th time)
4. be yourself (i work at a restaurant where we are forced to listen to contemporary, and they play this song i swear about every 30 minutes, there are such better songs by audioslave)
5. anything by steve miller band

oh yeah i forgot ALL RAP IS OVERRATED. Its not even music