I consider myself a prog fan, but am not fond of either band as a prog act. I voted Muse but I should clarify that I like Muse as a pop act more than a prog act. Its the catchy jingles that get me, not the actual musicianship.

Radiohead were good in the 90s when they played straight forward simplistic yet meaningful rock songs. However, I just can't relate to their prog work as well as it seems bogged down by conceptualism with less effort to emote something with substance.

That's a criticism thats aimed at prog in general.

I'd disagree. I find that there are a lot of bands that are prog (and prog related) who are extremely genuine. With Radiohead it just seems like they're being weird just for attention. Though maybe its because I grew up listening to their older material and just can't get over the jarring difference. Biasses can be weird like that.

I don't think Radiohead are THAT weird. Its all perfectly accessible if you ask me, there's been no point where they've really departed from catchy songs.

Yeah. Good thing I heard their weird/prog stuff before listening to Pablo Honey or The Bends.

Um. Title song from Kid A, Treefingers, Hunting Bears, Fitter Happier, Pulk/Pull Revolving Doors, MK 1 & 2.

And being catchy dosen't mean its not weird.

King Crimson have some really damn catchy songs. Lol, so do Mr. Bungle.

I wouldn't say its all that weird, its a gorgeous song, almost a lullaby actually.
I think if you put it into the context of the electro music they were compared to with that music (Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada) it comes off as far less weird. Just depends on the context i suppose.

Yah, how can someone not hum along to Book Of Saturday?

Note to Boo Boo: Stop editing your posts!
Fitter Happier is just an interlude, and i've said time and time before that Push/Pulk Revolving Doors has a groove like no other.
I might give you the benefit of the doubt with Morning Bell :)

But the thing is, I absolutely LOVE Caravan! Insanely good band. Winter Wine is one of the best songs of all time. Oh God, it's so good I gotta link to it:

In the Land of Grey and Pink and For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night is where it's at.

well.. i also like Muse but preferred Radiohead over them =)

I heard Radiohead's "Kid A" forshadowed the 9/11 attacks....Intresting thought.

Radiohead fer sure

What on earth is that supposed to mean, Loser?

uhh...what it says?
I'm not sure if it's a rumour or not but it seems like an intresting thought.

Gotta lay my vote down for muse simply because I haven't heard much of radiohead, which already makes me biased but I think Muse is a breath of fresh air from this mainstream mess.

Last I checked, Muse were part of that mainstream mess.

I have never heard Muse on the radio except for Hysteria. Though I hear thats not the case accross the pond where they are more popular.

And I assume anything that is not Pitchfork approved is a mainstream mess.

Not at all, it's just that Muse in particular are not very good and happen to be extremely popular in the mainstream and very fashionable too at the same time.

Liking Muse over here (and in some other parts of Europe) is used as some sort of lame signifier of having good, trendy, fashionable taste.

Not on internet forums though.

^ Agreed.
I would actually respect a pop music fan, as long he/she listen to what they like without bragging too much and appreciates that there's more to music than whats popular.
Having said that, maybe the UK might have all these radiohead copycat etcetc politics, but as an outsider, they seem fine and nothing lame TBH.

As opposed to Radiohead? :laughing:

Alright, ok, sigh, you win on that one. It is the same with Radiohead.

Thankfully I consider myself no major fan of either. But creatively speaking, if not instrumentally, there's one HELL of a lot more talent on the Radiohead side.

I know who has the most chops dosen't matter, but Muse are by no means talentless, that is just bullcrap.

agreed

They are not talentless. There was no suggestion of that. They just don't come near to the creative heights of Radiohead. I mean, one can like Muse more, I've got no beef with that at all. But to suggest that they're actually better artists is, imo, ludicrous.

keyword "imo"

These types of debates are never going to end, I think muse is better then radiohead musically, and you think the opposite. The best solution is to just agree to disagree since this will go on til the end of time if it doesn't stop soon.

Pre-Black Holes Muse is one of the blandest, most uninspired and insipid prog bands I have ever heard in my whole life. There is little to distinguish between way more than half of the damn songs on Origin of Symmetry and Absolution, and even less in terms of substantial ideas. At least BlackHoles&Revs is slightly more interesting, but Muse fans claim the other albums are the best, so you know what, I'll go even further than the previous statement: far as I'm concerned, it's not even an opinion, it's empirical observable fact: creatively, this bland piece of unduly, sickeningly self-satisfied piffle has absolutely nothing on Yorke and Radiohead at all.

And I'm not even much of a RH fan.

Your trolling is beginning to wear out it's welcome.

I wouldn't say its trolling, he's just saying who the best band is, the point of the thread.
And i'm a Muse fan, so i'm not being biased.

Muse all the way . . . .

Yeah, why's it trolling? I'm not trying to annoy Muse fans. I'm simply expressing my feelings - namely, that as far as opinions go, giving Bellamy and Muse creative merit over a genuinely vital band like Radiohead is in my mind offensive. Why can I not put that forth? This is a versus thread after all. What tires me is how when YOU don't like some viewpoint or other...when it causes YOU issues...you have to start taking shots at the poster.

I'm here for discussions. You probably noticed elsewhere that if I feel some good evidence/reasoning has been put out against my own claim, I'll happily admit it and drop the argument. I don't argue for the sake of arguing. I'm interested in sharing and learning something.

Yeah , ridiculing that cocksucker Bellemy is my job.

is this argument actually still happening?
i find this hilarious.

this is still going on? I've been listening to Muse a lot lately, and the more I listen to them, the less I think they can be compared.

They are completely different. if they look mildly similar on face value, it's because you haven't listened to either band properly:

Two different genres, 2 different styles, 2 entirely different bands. The only things they have in common is that they're popular alternative bands and their singers sound very, very slightly alike.

All this said, I still prefer Radiohead

I used to love Muse..then I grew a brain and realized radiohead was better....and then i discovered torrents and don't have time to discuss who is better.

Radiohead was a decade older than Muse. Muse is standing in the shoulders of a giant, Radiohead. You are only discussing personal taste of music. That doesn't mean anything to anyone other than yourself.

One of these days I will understand why people go into discussion forums & point out that what people are saying is only their personal opinion. :rolleyes:

Wrong. It means a lot actually, to everybody who may or may not agree with it. In fact if it meant so very little to you, you would not have even made that response.