notes can be emotional. you can play notes very slowly and melodically to make it seem like its very sad.

you can play notes very fast and hardcore to make it seem like its anger.

a lot of the emotion in music not only comes from the vocals but the instruments.

onerepublic for example. for the song apologize, the starting instruments brought me into the song and with the vocals after, i began to feel more of the emotion in the song.

I wasn't calling jazz monotonous I was referring to cynic's bland metal fusion, from the video that was posted. I was brought up with chet baker, john coltrane, charles mingus and michael brecker to name a few. So don't play that card. Plus calling folk bland and pathetic cancels any credibility you have/had. Your ego transcends your own opinion.
**** it, the only thing that can save you and this cynic circlejerk now



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Also the only reason I would stay in the lounge is to avoid straight edge ******* like you.

That's how we roll

nah. look at punk rock. I don't mean bull**** punk i mean actual DIY punk.

Are you asking how you quantify emotion or other elements of music, because that isn't really possible? However, I consider the major elements of music to be emotion, atmosphere and hooks.

There are many other elements like groove, heavyness etc... but they're more minor and some of them are more causal than others.

There's a difference between calling a single band bland and then calling one of the oldest genres ever bland and pathetic.

That's how we roll

No it's not even a slight difference, calling folk music bland/pathetic is dismissing a very big portion of music history. Calling Cynic bland is just calling some band bland.

Where did I ever call folk bland and pathetic? If I remember correctly I was specifically talking about people with acoustic guitars. Aren't you the one who pointed out that that isn't folk?


People do not need a degree in order to discuss music. I don't have one. However, I feel that without a knowledge of the methods used to create said music, appreciation other than that initial connection to the beauty and power of a piece is impossible.

I realize that liking or disliking a certain band is entirely subjective. I said it before and I'll say it again, if you dislike something I do (in this specific case, Cynic), I won't be offended or angry. However when the reason you give is something as trite as "their bland metal fusion". Then I take issue.

and thanks for thinking that a) I'm straightedge and b) I'm an *******. It means a lot. Granted I'd probably think you had more credibility if you didn't create threads titled "the ***est reply wins".

I'd also like to amend this: "and just to clarify, when I use the term technical, I'm NOT talking about mile a minute sweeps. That Cynic video is a prime example. Odd chord shapes coupled with counterpoint vocal melody create a layered effect that appeals to me in the pure aesthetic sense as well as the mathematical one."

you've been using the Cynic video for proof towards everything that it's becoming boring reading your posts. but i will add that you can have a connection with music without having the knowledge, but it wont be as good of a connection as if you had a very good sense in what the music is.