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Rock N' Roll Clown 02-19-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CalebJ (Post 1287181)
Between Ozzy and Dio, I think Dio is a better singer, BUT I prefer the raw sound of early Sabbath.

^ Completely agree.

It was very difficult to choose, because between 1970 and 1980 their albums are just terrific. Every album has such great songs. Paranoid is their greatest album, though. Every song from it is goddamn legendary. But I voted for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, because the poll isn't for greatest , but for favorite Sabbath album and the songs from the Bloody One have always been my favorite songs of theirs.

doronla 02-20-2013 12:02 PM

I can't believe sabotage is ranked so low... Megalomanina is one of the master pieces in this world!

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-20-2013 12:02 PM

I have a question.

Does anybody own Technical Ecstasy, and if so have you listened to it more than 3 times.

I just realised I've never listened to it the whole way through, ever.

Cinnamonics 02-20-2013 12:04 PM

I voted Sabotage. You can't go wrong with Symptom of the Universe and Hole in the Sky, by the gods!

Plankton 02-20-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1288527)
I have a question.

Does anybody own Technical Ecstasy, and if so have you listened to it more than 3 times.

I just realised I've never listened to it the whole way through, ever.

I owned it. Don't really know what happened to it though. I'm sure I listened to it all the way through at some point, but 3 times? Probably not even 2.

William_the_Bloody 02-22-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by doronla (Post 1288526)
I can't believe sabotage is ranked so low... Megalomanina is one of the master pieces in this world!

I agree that has to be bar none, one of the best Black Sabbath songs ever made, classic!

Puffnstuff 03-01-2013 06:02 AM

Heaven & Hell for me.

JayS 03-02-2013 08:01 AM

Paranoid all the way
 
Love the guitar riffs in Paranoid, definitely my favourite!

neardeathexperience 03-02-2013 06:08 PM

Paranoid because it sounded even heavier then their first album and the songs on it are just stunning when played at a large volume.

ZeyerGTR 03-06-2013 11:02 AM

I wanted to vote "Eternal Idol" just to give Tony Martin some props. I do think it's a great album (along with Tyr), but I voted "Paranoid" with "Black Sabbath" and "Vol. 4" close behind.

TheBlackMoons 03-06-2013 09:54 PM

I honestly don't like Black Sabbath with RJD. I'm not a fan of him at all. I know he brought a lot too metal, like the influence of mythology in lyrics and what not, but thats one of the thing that turns me off from metal haha.

Ozzy was perfect, he had such an early voice at times and sounded like a lunatic which I think works perfect for the band.

I chose paranoid, has too many good tracks on it

ToastedAndButter 03-17-2013 08:10 AM

Black sabbath for suuureee! But of course i love paranoid aswell!

tojamm 03-22-2013 12:14 AM

I like Sabotage the most. I think that the song Symtom Of The Universe is very good.

Paul Smeenus 03-22-2013 01:12 AM

Master of Reality FTW

Unknown Soldier 03-22-2013 06:09 PM

Paranoid is the best but I'm surprised on how much of a lead it has in the polls.

BastardofYoung 03-23-2013 02:45 AM

I love Paranoid, but for me I always favor Master more... "Into the Void" and "Children of the Grave" just have that sound that I love. Can tell that what the one that helped spawn Doom Metal more than Paranoid.

HoonIgan 03-23-2013 08:08 AM

I love Paranoid but Heaven and Hell was also a good album

Mojo 03-26-2013 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1299896)
Paranoid is the best but I'm surprised on how much of a lead it has in the polls.

I never listen to Paranoid or Black Sabbath, and Sabbath are probably still my favourite band. They are not bad albums by any stretch of the imagination, but I personally have found much more to go back to over time from albums like Vol. 4, Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage.

Cuthbert 03-26-2013 09:55 AM

I love them. All of the first three are very, very good imo. Got Paranoid on vinyl. Voted for Paranoid :cool:

ZiggyStardust 03-31-2013 01:07 PM

First three are most creative for sure. After about Vol. 4 things started to wind down.

Unknown Soldier 03-31-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1302522)
First three are most creative for sure. After about Vol. 4 things started to wind down.

I'd say Vol.4 was their most creative release.

Mojo 04-01-2013 05:01 PM

I'd second that. The debut is a landmark, inspirational etc etc but I wouldn't call it creative. Vol 4 is much more creative.

Dr_Rez 04-05-2013 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 1302933)
I'd second that. The debut is a landmark, inspirational etc etc but I wouldn't call it creative.


Please explain?

Mojo 04-05-2013 06:13 AM

The title track could be described as inspirational and somewhat original. I just find the rest of the album to be pretty safe, standard blues rock. I just think that if that album did plant seeds for heavy metal, specifically doom metal, then that's based on three tracks at best. The other two being 'Behind the Wall of Sleep' and 'NIB'. Just my opinion, obviously.

Unknown Soldier 04-05-2013 04:39 PM

The debut album is let down by its b-side as Mojo stated. The b-side contains a couple of covers, some very average jamming and most of it sounds like filler.

ZiggyStardust 04-05-2013 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1304289)
The debut album is let down by its b-side as Mojo stated. The b-side contains a couple of covers, some very average jamming and most of it sounds like filler.

I think on the last track, ''Warning'', is just ten minutes of 30 second samples of jamming. Not very good at all.

ThePhanastasio 04-06-2013 01:21 AM

Dunno why, but I thought I'd be the only one to vote Paranoid. It's mainstream as all get-out, but I love it.

Rjinn 04-06-2013 02:00 AM

Always considered Vol. 4 to be one of their mediocre productions. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is a follow up to more complex structures which became quite progressive. Great guitar work by Iommi too.

Mojo 04-06-2013 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn (Post 1304364)
Always considered Vol. 4 to be one of their mediocre productions. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is a follow up to more complex structures which became quite progressive. Great guitar work by Iommi too.

:yikes:

Faints.

Unknown Soldier 04-06-2013 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1304358)
Dunno why, but I thought I'd be the only one to vote Paranoid. It's mainstream as all get-out, but I love it.

It wasn't mainstream in 1970.

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Originally Posted by Rjinn (Post 1304364)
Always considered Vol. 4 to be one of their mediocre productions. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is a follow up to more complex structures which became quite progressive. Great guitar work by Iommi too.

:bonkhead:

Rjinn 04-06-2013 03:35 AM

Convincing might take more than physical repercussions! :P

I just think Vol. 4 is quite flat and overly loud. A downturn from their previous 3. Butler's bassline sounds non-existent, and seems to be turned all the way down. The drumming can sound uninspiring. It's not a bad album though. Wheels of Confusion is definitely fantastic.

Unknown Soldier 04-06-2013 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn (Post 1304373)
Convincing might take more than physical repercussions! :P

I just think Vol. 4 is quite flat and overly loud. A downturn from their previous 3. Butler's bassline sounds non-existent, and seems to be turned all the way down. The drumming can sound uninspiring. It's not a bad album though. Wheels of Confusion is definitely fantastic.

I was going to respond, but my review probably gives a better response. I don't normally promote my journal like so;) It's review position 2.

http://www.musicbanter.com/members-j...istory-18.html

Rjinn 04-08-2013 07:03 PM

Good job with the review.

I still stand by that the album could have been a lot better. However, the lyrics in this album are pretty good. For example in Cornucopia. Supernaut has great riffs but tracks like Laguna Sunrise is Iommi's weaker acoustic works. The guitars are too loud and it seems to overshadow the rest of the instrumentation especially the bass. Similar could be said for the drumming at times. It's just full of ups and downs.

Unknown Soldier 04-10-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn (Post 1305072)
Good job with the review.

I still stand by that the album could have been a lot better. However, the lyrics in this album are pretty good. For example in Cornucopia. Supernaut has great riffs but tracks like Laguna Sunrise is Iommi's weaker acoustic works. The guitars are too loud and it seems to overshadow the rest of the instrumentation especially the bass. Similar could be said for the drumming at times. It's just full of ups and downs.

By the time of Vol.4 the band's customary acoustic track had become somewhat predictable, therefore "Laguna Sunrise" is nothing special. As for the production I think it's one of their best and it was the only album that they produced at this time outside the UK and for these reasons the whole album has a distinct feel and certainly their most interesting.

Norg 04-11-2013 11:56 AM

I hope Sabbaths new album will be there best one yet

BastardofYoung 04-14-2013 04:41 PM

^ I doubt that.

Norg 04-15-2013 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1307075)
^ I doubt that.

why u doubt ..?????

u would think Iommi coming off cancer well beating it would now make the album of his life ..????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWFCS-OvVsY

pretty much what I expected Just Dry bluesy swampy Dirty Sabbath rock I like

BastardofYoung 04-15-2013 02:30 AM

They just don't have it in them to create anything that will ever be on the level of their first 3.

They are just riding the nostalgia wave. That was the whole point of this album (until Bill Ward was kicked out of course) to get together and write something with the original members, and bring them back together and create some magic.

Well, I doubt they have the power to re-write history like they did the first time around.

The odds are stacked against them. Sure, I bet they can deliver something that sounds good, but can they release something that will blow away their first 3... not a chance in hell.

That sample sounds good, but it is just nostalgic throwback... Plus, it is instrumental, no vocals and nothing to let us know the final version.

That could be a riff leftover from "Paranoid" that they put up as far as I care...

I have no doubt they will release something listenable... but I highly doubt they will release anything that will go down as their best album ever, and make people reach for it before they reach for those first 3 albums.

I am expecting nothing more than a nostalgic throwback.

I think the magic would have been better if they didn't kick out Bill Ward and those 4 got together and did something. But they went and screwed that up when they kicked out Bill.


p.s. That cover is so awful, that is the best they could come up with to represent their return. Oh man. I know that has nothing to do with the material, but it is pretty lazy and uninspired..

Unknown Soldier 04-15-2013 02:52 AM

It's been over 40 years since their debut, I doubt these old guys have any creative juices left. As always it's just going to be a nostalgic trip for them to cash in and I expect the album to be poor to just average at best. Most bands no matter how good they are have a creative lifeline, Black Sabbath were lucky and had two, their Ozzy era and their Dio era. Since then the only great album they've put out was Headless Cross one great album since 1981, says it all really.

Dr_Rez 04-15-2013 09:55 PM

Who cares, just be happy we as fans get another album. If it isnt that good so what, we have plenty of old albums to keep on enjoying.

"just riding the nostalgia wave?" WTF are you talking about man, these guys have spent their lives making music together, it is their passion...why shouldnt they take every possible opportunity to make more music.....?


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