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XblackmadonnaX 10-22-2004 03:06 PM

Jerry Cantrell!!!!
 
I just saw him last night at irving plaza (with camp freddy....sooo good)
He was ****in amazing!!!!! Man in the box was great, just incase you dont know about Camp Freddy, its kind of an "all star band" of sorts, with several guests making appearances such as cantrell, courney love, Slash, Duff McKagan, Matt Sorum, Weiland went to at least one show.....mmm

Its so indescibable to see Jerry rockin out just a couple feet away after all these years of seein him and AIC on tv and radio......(i was too young to see alice :( )
Dave navarro was so great too.....
I met him, Cantrell and Perk (steven perkins, the drummer for janes addiction, Porno For Pyros, Banion, CF, lotsa others....)
All very nice guys, especially dave, hes a very sweet guy.....*sigh*

franscar 10-22-2004 03:57 PM

Sounds like a great show. I took my ex to see him about three months after Layne died, and it was a very emotional show, all the Alice numbers got a massive ovation that night, but his solo stuff was really good too.

Pit-Bull84 10-23-2004 07:17 PM

Cantrell is my biggest insipiration and has ALWAYS been my favorite musician of all time.
I love ALL his work, he's NEVER let me down.

soundgardenrox 11-24-2004 06:06 PM

Jerry Cantrell is one of my favorite guitarist, writers, and vocalist! He's one of the greatest musicans of all time. He can do it all! He can write music, he can play guitar, he can write superb lyrics, and he can sing extremely well. He is too good for words.

2dogsrunning 06-05-2009 10:43 AM

I agree.

Jerry Cantrell is one of my absolute favorite musicians of all time. Though I like some songs more than others, I can't say that he's ever let me down with any of his repertoire. A true artistic mind.

crash_override 06-05-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 2dogsrunning (Post 674009)
I agree.

Jerry Cantrell is one of my absolute favorite musicians of all time. Though I like some songs more than others, I can't say that he's ever let me down with any of his repertoire. A true artistic mind.

Wow you revived this thread from 04'?

Jerry Cantrell is a really good musician. Although I have to admit I wasn't too impressed with his post-AIC career.

ElephantSack 06-06-2009 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 674013)
Wow you revived this thread from 04'?

Jerry Cantrell is a really good musician. Although I have to admit I wasn't too impressed with his post-AIC career.

Hell, why not? I rarely stop to check the dates on the forums. Oh well.

But with that being said, I'll spill my guts a bit about Cantrell: He was definitely the definitive driving force behind AIC in my opinion. Listening to his solo work only made it more obvious to me of exactly how much Alice In Chains' sound was molded by his style. Granted, AIC was a mash of excellent creative minds, culminating in the kind of sonic monstrosity that it came to be, but Jerry's solo work, particularly Boggy Depot, is really great. It's more subtle and bluesy, and in stepping in his own direction, I think he did something awesome, instead of trying to write music that would sound like Alice in Chains.

Automatic Slim 06-06-2009 10:46 AM

Cantrell wrote a lot of good lyrics post-AIC, but I didn't like the music that went with it so much. A bit more aggression would have helped. He seemed to be heading in that direction with Degradation Trip, which was better than Boggy Depot. Still not as good as AIC, though.

mr dave 06-06-2009 03:47 PM

if jerry cantrell hadn't put his actual name on 'boggy depot' virtually no one would have looked at it twice.

'cut you in' might have made a minor impact, about as much as the 'seven mary three' single from around the same time. anyone else remember them? how about candlebox?

alice in chains got lucky in the fact that they were able to be more than the sum of their parts when everything was working to their advantage. outside of that group the individual members just weren't that outstanding. they don't suck, they're just not that great either.

333 06-06-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 675202)
if jerry cantrell hadn't put his actual name on 'boggy depot' virtually no one would have looked at it twice.

'cut you in' might have made a minor impact, about as much as the 'seven mary three' single from around the same time. anyone else remember them? how about candlebox?

alice in chains got lucky in the fact that they were able to be more than the sum of their parts when everything was working to their advantage. outside of that group the individual members just weren't that outstanding. they don't suck, they're just not that great either.

I'm curious to what you've heard from them as a band (AIC) and individually. I went through a period of youtubing them and they never fail to touch me. Staley's voice on it's own is enough to give me goosebumps. I think Jerry Cantrell is as humble as they come for all the attention the band has received. Though his solo albums can get under my skin at times when it gets way too emotional for my liking, I think Boggy Depot is phenomenal.

mr dave 06-06-2009 08:05 PM

as a band - i still own copies of dirt, jar of flies, and the self-titled album. even bought the tab books for dirt and the s/t and learned to play the bulk of those albums. never owned the unplugged album but heard it more than enough times. all i know from 'facelift' is 'man in the box'.

bought 'boggy depot' on release. maybe i need to pull it out again to try a re-evaluation but from what i remember it was just another sludgy 90s rock album. cantrell may well be cool as ice cream but that doesn't mean his output gets a carte blanche just because he was in a seminal band back in the day (at least not to my ears).

saw a few clips of staley on his own and to me it seemed he was doing his best to channel AiC through whatever backing band he had going and it just wasn't there.

333 06-06-2009 08:12 PM

Okay, so good to hear. For a minute there, I thought you weren't familiar with their their albums and just started talking about of your ass. If I were you, I'd give Facelift a listen. And you're right about Cantrell - Boggy Depot was very reminiscent of AIC, and for that, I didn't dig it the first few times I heard the album, either. Even after acknowledging it for what it is, I still skip through a couple songs for the simple fact that I have my own problems and I find no interest in hearing Jerry moan about his. I feel like we're switching roles here, but Jerry does get boring to me sometime. His vocal range isn't that impressive and lyrically, he's kind of a pussy.

mr dave 06-06-2009 08:26 PM

no worries. i realize i come across as a bit pretentious sometimes but, whatever. i'm older than the average user here, i don't look up much info about the 90s when i can just remember being a teenager instead. i also generally try to shy away from talking about stuff i don't have a fair amount of knowledge about hehehe.

as for Cantrell and his lyrics... well he never did shy away from calling Elton John one of his biggest influences back in the 90s haha

Griffith Genkins 06-07-2009 07:59 PM

Big fan of Jerry, mostly for how well his voice backed up Layne's, everytime I watch the MTV Unplugged dvd of AIC I always get goosebumps watching them both. Wonderful.

crash_override 06-08-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 333 (Post 675340)
Okay, so good to hear. For a minute there, I thought you weren't familiar with their their albums and just started talking about of your ass. If I were you, I'd give Facelift a listen. And you're right about Cantrell - Boggy Depot was very reminiscent of AIC, and for that, I didn't dig it the first few times I heard the album, either. Even after acknowledging it for what it is, I still skip through a couple songs for the simple fact that I have my own problems and I find no interest in hearing Jerry moan about his. I feel like we're switching roles here, but Jerry does get boring to me sometime. His vocal range isn't that impressive and lyrically, he's kind of a pussy.

I have posted with Mr Dave since way back in the day I can confidently say the man never talks out of his ass. Very knowledgeable member he is. As for Cantrell being a "lyrical pussy'', that's kind of harsh.

333 06-09-2009 12:50 PM

mr dave: I rather like your approach when it comes to discussing music you're knowledgeable about. I think a lot of us here google everything to come across as knowledgeable about the music we're into (or not into). I didn't know you were an old-timer. :P I would have guessed otherwise.

Crash_override: I'm well-aware that mr dave doesn't talk out of his ass. I think I'm just too quick to catch people doing that because I'm kind of a dip**** like that. And yeah, lyrical pussy was kind of harsh, but some of **** just gets to be waaay too sappy for me. I, do, however, love the lyrics to "Settling Down" off of Boggy Depot. It scared me the first few times because I thought it meant that I wasn't ready for a relationship. Go figure.

crash_override 06-09-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 333 (Post 677630)
mr dave: I rather like your approach when it comes to discussing music you're knowledgeable about. I think a lot of us here google everything to come across as knowledgeable about the music we're into (or not into). I didn't know you were an old-timer. :P I would have guessed otherwise.

Crash_override: I'm well-aware that mr dave doesn't talk out of his ass. I think I'm just too quick to catch people doing that because I'm kind of a dip**** like that. And yeah, lyrical pussy was kind of harsh, but some of **** just gets to be waaay too sappy for me. I, do, however, love the lyrics to "Settling Down" off of Boggy Depot. It scared me the first few times because I thought it meant that I wasn't ready for a relationship. Go figure.

it's all good.

yeah I find that happening alot with his stuff or even AIC, it's gets you thinking internal.

mr dave 06-09-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 333 (Post 677630)
mr dave: I rather like your approach when it comes to discussing music you're knowledgeable about. I think a lot of us here google everything to come across as knowledgeable about the music we're into (or not into). I didn't know you were an old-timer. :P I would have guessed otherwise.

no worries. most people don't think i'm in my 30s when they see me in person either :laughing:

when it comes to older stuff i much prefer relying on the old noggin as opposed to google as it affords a far more unique perspective on the issue. it's one thing to use the net to fact check dates or track lists but it's another thing entirely to base your 'opinion' on something you rewrote from wikipedia hehehe.

333 06-09-2009 10:35 PM

I agree with you both. In fact, I'm feeling especially emotional tonight, so Boggy Depot is going in now.

mr dave 06-10-2009 12:58 AM

nice, next time i'm digging through my binder of discs i'll definitely have to keep an eye out for it. although i'm not sure if i still own it, may have pawned it a few years ago to help a friend pick up an autoharp.


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