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Norg 07-30-2009 10:06 PM

Satyricon :yeah:

Dimmu borgir

Terrible Lizard 07-31-2009 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 712288)
Satyricon :yeah:

Dimmu borgir

GTFO :p:

Abruptum

storymilo 07-31-2009 01:01 PM

Morbid Anal Fog!

YouTube - Morbid Anal Fog (The Most Famous True Black Metal Band Ever) :rofl:

feedbacker 08-03-2009 04:06 PM

I'm also going to say Darkthrone. Gorgoroth is a very close second, though.

Austrian Metalhead 08-12-2009 09:07 AM

NOCTE OBDUCTA!!!!
Ragnarok!!

Pillowmint 08-22-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ElephantSack (Post 644270)
7. Grim and Frostbitten Gay Bar

Awesome

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 03-19-2011 07:25 PM

Resurrecting this thread randomly searching for Behexen:

Arcturus is the right answer.

RVCA 03-19-2011 11:49 PM

Does Alcest count? I recently discovered them and love it

Zer0 03-20-2011 06:29 AM

I wouldn't really consider Alcest black metal anymore. When Neige started he was making black metal alright but he completely broke the mould with the full-length Alcest albums. He took his black metal roots and combined them with other influences to create something really unique and incredible. There are still bits of black metal creeping in here and there but overall Alcest almost defy genrification.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 03-20-2011 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 1020921)
Does Alcest count? I recently discovered them and love it

I'm assuming any metal created in the name of Satan with medieval themes, and facepaint counts.

RVCA 03-20-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah (Post 1021000)
I'm assuming any metal created in the name of Satan with medieval themes, and facepaint counts.

Well, like Zero said I find it pretty difficult to efficiently classify Alcest into any one genre

James 03-20-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah (Post 1021000)
I'm assuming any metal created in the name of Satan with medieval themes, and facepaint counts.

Troll.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 03-20-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1021116)
Troll.

Never heard of Troll, are they any good?

hip hop bunny hop 03-20-2011 10:01 PM

Troll's "Drep De Kristne" is a solid album. Although defintelly melodic, it avoids the pitfalls of that subgenre, largely thanks to an active rhythm section and vocal patterns that aren't overly predictable. Liberals would be advised to avoid the lyric sheet, as the lyrics are decidedly un-PC, as one would expect from a member of The Kovenant.

Obombration 03-21-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 479280)
...Agalloch, hands down. Ulver in a close second. Thoughts?

Anyways, the real reason for this thread is I wanted to know if anyone has listened to Agalloch's sort-of side project called Sculptured. Someone told me they were good, but if I am going to stop listening to noise music and noise rock for awhile then there better be a good reason.:D

rofl

Dilith_kot 03-22-2011 05:17 PM

mayhem got the best story obv

King_Matt 03-22-2011 08:50 PM

Behemoth

Wayfarer 03-25-2011 05:28 PM

Pssh, black metal. Everyone knows all those bands are just ripping off KISS anyway.

Terrible Lizard 03-26-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 1024694)
Pssh, black metal. Everyone knows all those bands are just ripping off KISS anyway.

Oh you.

Key 03-26-2011 02:09 PM

I'm going with Dimmu Borgir. I'm not considerably familiar with the genre as a whole, but I have enjoyed quite a few bands from recommendations. But...Dimmu Borgir were the first that I listened to, and I have enjoyed them for years.

Especially with Progenies:

Raust 03-29-2011 10:11 AM

Enslaved is my favorite. Just the essence of black metal real heavy. I really like Agalloch also really dig there experimentation. Burzum to, there just scary dark.

hip hop bunny hop 03-30-2011 10:10 PM

Agalloch are hipster twats of such enormous proportions they actually took the time to note, that, indeed, they had used antlers for percussion. It's boring music that puts novelty ahead of quality, and that novelty is itself limited; what is important isn't what you use for percussion, but how percussion is used. Any band that points out they use antlers (or how "grim" and "primitive" the recording session was, for that matter) miss this important point.

That they are recieving such acclaim is just further proof to me that Black Metal's best days are long gone, and that the genre is approaching irrelevance.

Truly, that the current black metal fan knows more about a few Norwegian's histrionics, as they relate to the genre, than key early black metal bands (bathory, sarco***o, blasphemy, hellhammer) just goes to show how decrepit the genre has become.

If you want to listen to good black metal, start at the beginning and work backwards. Hellhammer, Bathory, Blasphemy, & Sarco***o are essential.

Anteater 03-31-2011 04:34 PM

Black metal wise, I've recently become quite fond of groups like Inquisition and Sear Bliss. Cragataska (a relatively obscure artist in the international black metal realm) also has shown insane potential with the EPs I've heard thus far.

Along with some of the more classic acts, I need to dig back into Sigh's 90's output and pick up a few gems I don't have.

gunnels 04-04-2011 07:05 PM

I'm gonna be totally un-kvlt and say Alcest. But, in agreement with the previous posts, I do believe that they are unclassifiable.

So, winners by default are Sigh!

almauro 04-06-2011 05:23 PM

^
Alcest is a great sounding band, but I think it's shoe-gaze with black metal roots, way down the line. Songs like "Solar Song" are just too deliciously sonic to fall in the realm of harsh BM. For that I put forward Watain, pure Bathory inspired brutality, with a fair share of melody. They're as good as anything going on today.

EvilChuck 04-06-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1027850)
Agalloch are hipster twats of such enormous proportions they actually took the time to note, that, indeed, they had used antlers for percussion. It's boring music that puts novelty ahead of quality, and that novelty is itself limited; what is important isn't what you use for percussion, but how percussion is used. Any band that points out they use antlers (or how "grim" and "primitive" the recording session was, for that matter) miss this important point.

That they are recieving such acclaim is just further proof to me that Black Metal's best days are long gone, and that the genre is approaching irrelevance.

Truly, that the current black metal fan knows more about a few Norwegian's histrionics, as they relate to the genre, than key early black metal bands (bathory, sarco***o, blasphemy, hellhammer) just goes to show how decrepit the genre has become.

If you want to listen to good black metal, start at the beginning and work backwards. Hellhammer, Bathory, Blasphemy, & Sarco***o are essential.

I'd agree with so much of this post, far too many modern black metal bands are caught up in the image of being 'kvlt' and 'trve' that they seem to have forgotten that the music is the most essential part. Its a sad state of affairs when a large majority of reviews of new bands I hear feel the need to mention Darkthrone/Emperor/Mayhem, more often than not with the bands in question being labelled as 'copycats/clones'. Its a shame really.

The best current black metal band for my money is Enslaved. They are the ones putting out material that is both true to the roots of themselves and the genre in terms of sound, while still being able to evolve as well. Wolves In The Throne Room deserve a mention I think as well as a new band that isnt cliche and poseurish.

hip hop bunny hop 04-06-2011 09:28 PM

Enslaved are solid. I've "Below the Lights" ('03) & "Frost" ('94), and while the willingness to go beyond genre conventions is more evident on the former, they do so on Frost as well. On the track Fenris, for example, there is an extended moment where the keyboards have a sort of minimalist solo over restrained guitars and some very, very sharp double bass work - and it's not contrived or ill fitting.

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Its a sad state of affairs when a large majority of reviews of new bands I hear feel the need to mention Darkthrone/Emperor/Mayhem, more often than not with the bands in question being labelled as 'copycats/clones'.
That's when reviews mention the music at all. Too often reviews are just biographies, and when music is mentioned it's just offhand references to other bands, "drumming like immolation" or "riffs like immortal' (which make the reviews worthless if you haven't heard reference x).... it seems the average review exists to point out how tr00 the reviewer rather than describe the music.

Oh well.

GERD 04-24-2011 05:20 PM

There are many candidates but my choice would be Emperor.

GERD 04-24-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 1030752)
I'm gonna be totally un-kvlt and say Alcest. But, in agreement with the previous posts, I do believe that they are unclassifiable.

So, winners by default are Sigh!

I like Sigh a lot. My favourite is Gallows Gallery.

Terrible Lizard 04-26-2011 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1027850)
Agalloch are hipster twats of such enormous proportions they actually took the time to note, that, indeed, they had used antlers for percussion. It's boring music that puts novelty ahead of quality, and that novelty is itself limited; what is important isn't what you use for percussion, but how percussion is used. Any band that points out they use antlers (or how "grim" and "primitive" the recording session was, for that matter) miss this important point.

That they are recieving such acclaim is just further proof to me that Black Metal's best days are long gone, and that the genre is approaching irrelevance.

Truly, that the current black metal fan knows more about a few Norwegian's histrionics, as they relate to the genre, than key early black metal bands (bathory, sarco***o, blasphemy, hellhammer) just goes to show how decrepit the genre has become.

If you want to listen to good black metal, start at the beginning and work backwards. Hellhammer, Bathory, Blasphemy, & Sarco***o are essential.

:rolleyes:

Black Metal is hardly approaching irrelevance, this is just more douchebag uberkvlt bull**** every metal forum dip**** is spewing. It has grown in influence in the music world and like any other genre it has allowed a degree of accessibility to seep in during the process.

If you want to point the hipster finger, Liturgy is your band.

GERD 04-27-2011 07:20 AM

I agree that BM's very best days have probably passed, however there is a great deal of quality black metal music being made and I doubt whether the genre will ever become insignificant.
My favourite black metal records are from the early 1990s, when I was in my late teens, but there is still plenty of high quality black metal, particularly from the underground.:shycouch:

hip hop bunny hop 04-28-2011 05:29 PM

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Black Metal is hardly approaching irrelevance, this is just more douchebag uberkvlt bull**** every metal forum dip**** is spewing. It has grown in influence in the music world and like any other genre it has allowed a degree of accessibility to seep in during the process.

If you want to point the hipster finger, Liturgy is your band.
How was I being "kvlt" at all? I was advocating the supremacy of the foundational bands that are widely known and respected, not obscure 21st century acts who limit their releases to this number of copies on this outdated format....

Anyways, allow me to rephrase: contemporary black metal is approaching irrelevance.

GERD 04-28-2011 06:03 PM

some contemporary black metal is irrelevant.
but not all.

Gregor XIII 04-28-2011 06:28 PM

The new Liturgy album is mostly brilliant. Not specifically because it's Black Metal, though. But anyhow, how many sub-genres stay relevant over 20 years?

GERD 04-29-2011 05:53 AM

That's a good point.Not many I would think as time moves on.

Gregor XIII 04-29-2011 05:39 PM

The thing is, though, that Black Metal-hybrid sort of stuff has been really great these last few years. Stuff like Deathspell Omega, Gnaw Their Tongues, Liturgy, Alcest, even Mt Eerie on Wind's Poem, are in no way 'tr00' BM, but they show how powerfull the genre is, and how the ideas can be used differently. I don't know enough about the original stuff, but I love a lot of this newer stuff. As an influence, BM is definitely relevant today. Probably more than it has been for a long time.

GERD 04-29-2011 06:29 PM

Gnaw Their Tongues is downright spooky! I got a free cd with a magazine subscription, that s*** is just spooky.:wave::soccer:

Gregor XIII 04-29-2011 06:33 PM

I know! The last one was so great! But it's as much classical samples as it is anything related to BM.

OccultHawk 10-27-2019 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GERD (Post 1045500)
Gnaw Their Tongues is downright spooky! I got a free cd with a magazine subscription, that s*** is just spooky.:wave::soccer:

Gnaw Their Tongues deserves more love!

Tristan_Geoff 10-27-2019 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2086201)
Gnaw Their Tongues deserves more love!

Agreed.


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