????? What the hell are you talking about now? They're pretty much one and the same!

Progressive Black Metal V Country tinged Southern Rock? I can imagine many Neil Young fans not giving Agalloch the time of the day and vise versa. I happen to like both but they have wildly different sounds and the forum now provides a place for both.

You already have multiple different styles that lead back to rock as separate forums. I say, make sub-forums for rock and get rid of the other ones. The following sub-forums under rock would probably cover most ground: Alternative/Indie-Rock, Art-Rock/Experimental, Dance, Folk/Country Rock, Hard Rock, Pop/Rock, Punk/New Wave, Rock & Roll/Roots, Soft Rock, Psychedelic/Garage, Europop, Foreign Language Rock, and British Invasion. Voila, problem solved!

Because there's no demand for it.

Other than half a dozen big name bands like you mentioned there are only a handful of people who actually listen to it in any great detail.

If I was to start a thread on Glaxo Babies or Blurt I'd be lucky if it got more than a couple of replies.

Besides virtually all those bands are/were on independent labels so the indie forum is fine.

Why though?

There isn't anywhere near that many threads or traffic on the site to even warrant putting that into place.

The point of my posts in this thread were to point out the flaws of what the term "rock" has become on this site, which is what the thread was started for. It wasn't an actual demand or anything, just an example of how Music Banter could better represent what is and is not rock.

And your idea of how to represent rock is to have 13 sub forums. Which is currently un-needed and un-workable.

That's great if it's not needed, but that would be the best way to represent all of the different corners rock has. I was recommending doing this rather than making forums about styles of rock, when there is already a rock forum. In this case, wouldn't you have that style under the rock forum?

Not all rock music needs representing.
The only reason sub forums are created is because there is demand for them , not just because a particular type of music exists.

That's what people seem to be missing here. The prog/classic forum was created because there are people here who could make it work and there has been a demand for it. In fact people have been demanding a prog forum for nearly 3 years. Now we have a number of members who can make a prog forum work it has been put into place.
That is why sub forums are created.

What about people who like all forms of rock though? Are they just left out to dry? Besides, you can go far more in-depth with styles of rock, I just picked the main ones.

Why ? Has the Rock/Metal forum suddenly been deleted?

Fair enough. I just wanted to know how you figured out which types of rock were deemed important enough to be given their own forum/sub-forum. If you think about it that way, half of the forums/sub-forums on here aren't necessary.

I take it you haven't heard Young's foray into Black Metal and Agalloch's southern rock stuff...

Wait, I'm confused. I thought you were joking. I hope you are. :rofl:

Despite any forays that these artists have done ( including Youngs foray into Electronica in the mis 80's), their sounds are typically opposites and they were just an example. We could get many bands and apply a 'six degrees of separation' rule to them all in order to disprove the need for genre tags.

I really dont understand the fuss about the prog forum when a Hardcore/Emo subforum has existed for a long time yet it is accepted that the need for this sub forum is ok. The simple fact is, is that you can differentiate bewteen Rock and Metal and many fans who like classic rock cannot abide the heavier side of music and vise versa, so this is for both posters who dont want to wade through umpteen metal threads.

The new sub-forum is very good to have because I feel the Rock and Metal forum is geared more towards modern rock music. So I asked for a sub-forum devoted to older rock music.

Modern rock related threads do good here, but classic rock and prog threads always bomb, so its better for these threads to have their own space.

Ok I understand now and I'm cool with it, but would it be possible to have a piano rock subforum?

Piano rock, wouldn't that just fall into pop?

Or pop rock.

Nah piano rock's quite an intricate and well developed art form imo.

Lol, what the hell is that?

Until you've heard Vanessa Carlton on the Fender Rhodes, Quasi on the the Wurlitzer or Neil Sedaka on the granddaddy pianoforte, the world must remain silent!

The new 'Classic Rock, Prog and Psychedelic' sub-forum is very much boo boo's idea and if it grows and attracts new members to the boards, then there's every chance it'll have a forum of it's own.

boo boo has complete control of what does and doesn't go in there.
So please, no genre arguments and help support the new forum by posting on topic.