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boo boo 07-05-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 495106)
We will let BooBoo describe the criteria for his choices. As I have already said lists are always subjective.I am a little nonplussed myself as to certain inclusions but let's wait for his take on it please.

Creativity, Originality, Influence, Status, Impact, to a lesser extent Technical Skill and just my personal bias.

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Originally Posted by Sodacake (Post 495263)
I don't think Holdsworth is rock enough for this list.

He's played for progressive rock groups like Soft Machine and Gong, in fact he's collaborated with a lot of rock musicians on what are basically rock recordings, and enough of his own solo material could be considered rock. I dont really think of him as a pure jazz guitarist, and most purists would agree to that.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 495052)
No Michael Karoli or Graham Coxon or did I miss them ?

I have to say i'm surprised by the inclusion of Glen Buxton. Did you know he didn't record anything with Alice Cooper after Schools Out?

I am aware of that. But Live it to Death and Schools Out are considered milestones in his career, he did much to define Coopers original sound.

Maybe he's too high, but I'm not gonna worry about the rankings too much, just the inclusions more than anything.

EDIT: Made one slight change, replaced Homme with Ace Frehley. But I dont intend to make any more changes, I like the final result just fine and I'm not trying to please anyone, just curious what people have to say.

Inuzuka Skysword 07-06-2008 12:04 PM

I really wonder why Fredrik Thordendal of Meshuggah isn't on there.

Demonoid 07-07-2008 06:05 AM

Hey you forgot the Michael's :p:

Michael Karoli
Michael Romeo

I would include Greg Howe & Manuel Gottsching as well.(Gottsching is really underrated)
But i guess that would be a Demonoid's list then.

Double X 07-07-2008 09:30 AM

Steve Ray Vaughn should be a little higher, and Duane Allman should be a little higher too.

Am I the only one who thinks Hendrix shouldn't be first? I like Duane and JBeck over him. Definitly top 5 though.

EDIT: Holdsworth is great. Don't take him out. His stuff on the second Bruford album (the name escapes me) is great.

lucifer_sam 07-07-2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 495261)
How is Bo Diddley not rock?

And no I dont consider BB King a rock guitatist, just pure blues. Granted there are a handful of blues guitarists on this list like Johnny Winter but thats because they do have rock material and their sound is more blues rock than pure blues.

In the same sense I added Allan Holdsworth and John Maclaughlin, who are probably more thought of as Jazz guitarists but they have a handful of rock material and an overall rock oriented sound, and no Pat Matheny wasn't an oversight, just in case that comes up.

Just so long as it isn't a personal insult to the king of the blues (like The Unfan...don't know how much crack he was smoking). I did notice the absence of a few other guitarists, but it wasn't anything big. I would have rearranged the top ten:
  1. Jimi Hendrix
  2. Duane Allman
  3. Chuck Berry
  4. Eric Clapton
  5. Jimmy Page
  6. Bo Diddley
  7. Jeff Beck
  8. Eddie Van Halen
  9. Stevie Ray Vaughan
  10. Pete Townshend

Sodacake 07-07-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Double X (Post 495793)
Steve Ray Vaughn should be a little higher, and Duane Allman should be a little higher too.

Am I the only one who thinks Hendrix shouldn't be first? I like Duane and JBeck over him. Definitly top 5 though.

EDIT: Holdsworth is great. Don't take him out. His stuff on the second Bruford album (the name escapes me) is great.

Without doubt Hendrix is the greatest.

Double X 07-07-2008 02:18 PM

I don't think its without doubt. I think it's sort of like just saying Neil Peart is automatically the best drummer when John Bonham and Ginger Baker are quite exceptional themselves.

boo boo 07-07-2008 03:08 PM

I'm adding some more names to it, til I get to like 250.

Son of JayJamJah 07-07-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 495889)
I'm adding some more names to it, til I get to like 250.

Why not share a little bit about your personal favorites along the way.
I would be interested to hear what someone who can evaluate 200 plus guitar players has to say about personal favs.

davey 07-07-2008 05:13 PM

Bo Diddley is one of the top 10 pioneers/innovators in R&R, but, he is not anywhere near the top 50, or 100, or 200 when it comes to his skill on the guitar.
What he did was create a sound and a beat that every guitarist has used since 1957.
But inventing a sound and a beat doesn't make him a better axeman than you or I.
His influence is etched in R&R history, but not for his guitar playing abilities.

I love him:bowdown:, I listen to his music:bowdown:, I miss him:bowdown:, I hear his beat every day in other bands tunes, but, again, as a guitarist, he shouldn't be on anyone's top guitarists list.:finger:


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