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khfreek 12-18-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 566015)
Well he wasn't the first to play really fast, and he wasn't the first to use tapping...

His question was, who else sounded like Eddie Van Halen in 1978? No one <_<

jackhammer 12-18-2008 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 566046)
His question was, who else sounded like Eddie Van Halen in 1978? No one <_<

Thank christ for that.

dac 12-18-2008 06:20 PM

Eddie Van Halen took what little emotion was left in guitar playing at the time and destroyed every last bit of it. He is the master of guitar wankery IMO. Satriani and Malmsteen look like Gilmour in his presence.

khfreek 12-18-2008 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 566054)
Eddie Van Halen took what little emotion was left in guitar playing at the time and destroyed every last bit of it. He is the master of guitar wankery IMO. Satriani and Malmsteen look like Gilmour in his presence.

Eddie Van Halen is one of the best rhythm guitar players of his era, so please gtfo. He writes a very good rock riff.

mr dave 12-18-2008 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 566015)
Well he wasn't the first to play really fast, and he wasn't the first to use tapping...

right... but who else combined it the way he did? who else incorporated those elements of speed and virtuosity into contemporary pop rock tunes?

who else was tapping like him before he started? i know he got the idea from seeing led zeppelin in concert after watching page fake harmonics by tapping 12 frets higher on the neck. i've seen footage of hendrix in the studio while recording 'electric ladyland' doing the same. yet neither tapped like 'eruption' or made it a standard part of their musical vocabulary.

so just who was it that innovated two hand tapping beyond the point of faking a harmonic?

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 566054)
Eddie Van Halen took what little emotion was left in guitar playing at the time and destroyed every last bit of it. He is the master of guitar wankery IMO. Satriani and Malmsteen look like Gilmour in his presence.

it's a list about guitarists not musicians.

Alfred 12-18-2008 06:25 PM

Where's the love for Omar? D:

dac 12-18-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 566058)
right... but who else combined it the way he did? who else incorporated those elements of speed and virtuosity into contemporary pop rock tunes?

who else was tapping like him before he started? i know he got the idea from seeing led zeppelin in concert after watching page fake harmonics by tapping 12 frets higher on the neck. i've seen footage of hendrix in the studio while recording 'electric ladyland' doing the same. yet neither tapped like 'eruption' or made it a standard part of their musical vocabulary.

so just who was it that innovated two hand tapping beyond the point of faking a harmonic?

1. Eruption is the most boring piece of sh*t ever, so don't bring that up.

2. Just because he brought wankery to the mainstream doesn't make him one of the best ever.

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 566059)
it's a list about guitarists not musicians.

Don't guitarists qualify as musicians?

jackhammer 12-18-2008 06:39 PM

Endlessley wanking on a fretboard denotes technical prowess. However it doesnt make it more palatable. EVH is a technically brilliant guitarist but that seems to me the antithesis of what the guitar brings to a musical venture. For all EVH's 'brilliance' they are still rarely classed as a groundbreaking rock act and regularly recieve praise through DLR's persona instead of the guitar work. If he was that good then why are Van Halen so average?

mr dave 12-18-2008 06:39 PM

way to avoid my questions.

notice the way i've already claimed to not like EVHs guitar, his style, and even his face in my first post in this thread. i ABHOR eddie van halen. cheeseball to the max.

but i'm not up my own ego's anus so far as to deny his ability with the instrument or the influence he had on a generation.... so tell me WHO was tapping like EVH before him? his style of two hand tapping is so distant from the examples i listed to be its own technique. so who did the innovation if EVH is just a copycat?

i guess my musician / guitarist comment can be misinterpreted. the list is focused on the instrument, not the emotional quotient of the music created by the instrument. it's the difference between picking up a guitar and thinking 'i'm gonna play guitar' and 'i'm gonna make music'. it's like the difference between effing and making love.

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 566069)
If he was that good then why are Van Halen so average?

sammy hagar :D

dac 12-18-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 566070)
way to avoid my questions.

notice the way i've already claimed to not like EVHs guitar, his style, and even his face in my first post in this thread. i ABHOR eddie van halen. cheeseball to the max.

but i'm not up my own ego's anus so far as to deny his ability with the instrument or the influence he had on a generation.... so tell me WHO was tapping like EVH before him? his style of two hand tapping is so distant from the examples i listed to be its own technique. so who did the innovation if EVH is just a copycat?

i guess my musician / guitarist comment can be misinterpreted. the list is focused on the instrument, not the emotional quotient of the music created by the instrument. it's the difference between picking up a guitar and thinking 'i'm gonna play guitar' and 'i'm gonna make music'. it's like the difference between effing and making love.

How about you read the original post... soul/emotion is one of the factors.

Maybe he was the first to do two handed tapping, but so what? The sound of his solos were so unoriginal. He played the same god damn scales that people had been playing for decades. He just figured out how to play them faster. Congratufuckinglations, he figured out how to jack of his guitar faster.


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