The riffing aint bad, but I can't decide what I hate more, the rapping or polka break. IMO, growling and shrieking bands are far more interesting, but if you insist on sticking to clean singing bands with heavy chops focus on post-thrash power metal influence bands like Iced Earth and Nevermore....shi_t, if you can put up with Mustaine's none technical vocals, you should love "End Game".

What say you, big3?

I can't think of anything that may meet your requirements better than Torche. Good job, Captain

Maybe you'll dig the Lord Weird Slough Feg


Or maybe just some good old fashioned Dio

It comes from the movie Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, an excellent documentary.

Its vocals remind me of Atreyu. And the guitar is nice, but if I'm looking for this kind of music I'll go with Clutch.

I'm litterally looking for the same music from some of the bigger metal bands, i just want to be able to hear what their saying. A lot of the vocals sound like early Korn and that "rawrrarwrrawr" ****.

It seems to me that if you're going to have such articulate guitar leads, soaring over the industrialized chug o your rhytham section, why can't you have you vocalist soar as well, rather than chug along with your grinding, punching rhythams?

by the way, the drums in this Torche song were brilliant. Very tribal sound with their reverberation.

what!!!!!! it's fine it was more or less a miss, but are we familiar with the same atreyu?



edit: actually i heard a different song that i could understand the comparison more. wow, i forgot how ****ty this band was though.

Yeah its not spot on, but its close enough for me to make the comparison.

That's how I was introduced to Metal. Great documentary if anyone is interested.

I edited out Killswitch and Dimmu because I think that is bad metal in every respect.

But you mentioned Mastodon and that's exactly why I thought Torche would be up your alley.

Mastodon is a good, skilled expression of the new (not nu) metal sound -- and I think Torche has that too but the singer doesn't at all sound like he has testicles in his throat. Torche has a nice, unique sound because, as you've pointed out, a lot of metal bands don't have vocals that appeal to the masses but they do. I officially have no idea what you're after .. or if it exists

If you want something done right...