The debut Korn album, is the only Korn release that can stack up against Sepultura`s best releases. As hard as Jonathan Davis tries (and I think he`s a great vocalist) he`s still no Max Cavalera.

Deep Purple are one of those classic 1970`s hard rock bands that can often be described as metal but for me they`re are distinctly hard rock. Though I can see the metal connection. "In Rock" was one of the fastest and heaviest albums of the early 70`s!!!

I can't believe that I didn't know until last night that Ronnie James Dio died 3 months ago. Well, I was traveling across the country at the time, so it's understandable. I love Dio, but I don't think that they (He?) qualify for the big 5.

Edit: What an amazing voice, even in this live 07' video at age 65!

Deep Purple are also self-admitted jazz lifters. a large amount of their riffs are apparently rework motifs, sped up a little and played with a bit more edge. even the iconic Smoke on the Water riff is a Gil Evans ripoff.




did embedding change? (i just get a white block when i try now)

I fixed it. URL embedding hasn't been working lately. Best to just use the youtube tags.

Dio (the band) was talked about all the time on things like vh1 classic even before his death, Dio also heavily influenced Power Metal. Holy Diver is often praised for being one of the best metal albums of all time!

some of his best songs:

awesome, thanks man :thumb:


@rammetal7 - did VH1 really talk about Dio that much before his cancer was made public? as in, do you remember hearing about Dio on tv in like 2002? how about 1998.

the toilet analogy for music and pop culture might not be nice but it's damn accurate. every generation circles the bowl and every rotation tries to avoid the previous one by scraping 2 steps back. like how my generation in the 90s borrowed from the 70s, then all the kids coming of age in the 2000s borrowed from the 80s, and now i'm seeing kids today borrowing from the 90s.

one of the things that got brought back from the 80s was that era's cheese metal.

was Dio influential? you damn straight he was. was he actually as recognized and respected to the level he should have outside his contemporaries and niche fanbase? not until he died.

But this thread is about the big four "Thrash" bands. Van Halen is not thrash, neither is Judas Preist.

It isn't about that, read the OP.

You keep on about thrash!!! This thread is not about the big 4 thrash bands......thats on another thread! Only one of the four first mentioned on this thread is thrash anyway.

no, its not mainly about thrash.

I would have to say Motorhead. But this isn't really considered a Metal band today but in the 70's they were pretty "heavy", Led Zeppelin.

Whether they are considered a proper metal band or not is irrelevant! Lemmy`s influence on the metal scene especially in the late 70`s and early 80`s is huge. A major player in the NWOBHM scene, a major influence on Thrash and also the speed metal scene which I`d say they invented (they played faster material before Judas Priest got around to doing it, another band credited with the speed metal creators) and they were a major influence on the German speed metal bands of the time, such as Helloween and Blind Guardian etc These groups in turn would became highly influential with their European power metal sound.

The influence of Motorhead also stretches well beyond metal boundaries as well, but thats another story.

xEMGx was actually talking about Led Zeppelin I think. Who wouldn't consider Motorhead a metal band?

Anyways, W.A.S.P. is easily the greatest metal band of all time.



Okay maybe not. But seriously at least watch from 0:05 to 0:35 on that video. Pure awesomeness.

well actually... from the top of the 2nd page after i brought up Motorhead right at the start

so yeah... the person that legitimately matters the most in regards to Motorhead is THE person who would be most against you on this claim.

ok sorry about that. sometimes I don't read any pages besides the first and last, especially when I'm only looking for an excuse to bring up hair metal. I guess I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to Motorhead, only liking a couple songs by them. I respect Lemmy for finding and bedding over 1000 women who were willing to overlook the mole. But still, if Lemmy didn't say Motorhead were a rock 'n' roll band, people who knew about them would always call them metal.

I took it he was talking about Motorhead but looking again it could have easily been Zeppelin. Anyways its the case of Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Blue Oyster Cult, UFO, Scorpions, AC/DC etc all being regarded as heavy groups in the 1970`s (which they were) it was only by the time of post NWOBHM that the labels came in of who was metal and who wasn`t. As a footnote and a general rule of thumb, if there was a blues influence which a load of those groups had then they weren`t metal but hard rock. Also the twin lead guitar which both Judas Priest and later Iron Maiden had was very much an early metal trait and the Scorpions definitely had this.

agreed. there's a reason i brought up Motorhead too hehe. as far as influencing metal there's no denying their place. we just apparently can't call them metal. hahaha

You can not tell the history of metal without mentioning Motörhead, they are a essential.

hmm, maybe I should make a pool with the bands that were suggested alot in this thread.

That's what I was going to say. **** it. I have nothing more to post.

****ing right mate. Priest was everything metal needed. Slayer robots, motorcycles, spikes, leather, and a **** ton of screaming axes. PLUS ROB ****ING HALFORD.

Read OP first. Who would be the 5th, not your 5.

This thread needs bumping

Megadeth or maybe Pantera.

If you wanted to add numetal, you could put Korn there.

Morbid Angel, Death or Bathory.

After ripping through the first decade of the 21st century brutalizing the modern metal scene, I'd have to say Lamb of God has earned the right to be considered "essential metal"

It would be impossible to decide, especially with the four bands given. Any band that I would mention don't really fit in with those four, even though I would consider them essential. I think Lamb of God is the best modern American band so I will go with them as an essential. If I picked one from Europe I would say In Flames.

The answer is Slayer. They are the best gateway band into the more extreme forms of metal, and I daresay they are the quintessential metal band.

67 posts and not a mention of Diamond Head

Tut tut.

Diamond Head aren't essential.

Iron Maiden
Slayer
Napalm Death
Posessed
Venom

I agree, but if we were talking about pure talent they certainly would be and Metallica owe them a great debt.

Based on the criteria of this thread which consists of Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Metallica, Slayer are the logical choice really for the 5th spot.

Essential enough for one of the 'Top 4' bands to rip them off wholesale.