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Necromancer 09-12-2010 10:01 PM

Rapcore Thread
 
Genre Originality:Punk, Genre Rap Rock, subgenre Rapcore's best success was in the 90s.
My favorite Rapcore bands are, Run DMC, Kid Rock, Linkin Park, POD & Saliva, Rage Against The Machine, Limp Bizkit, also a few..others.
I pay most of attention to mainsream music, I know that I am missing out on alot of good music,bands/artist, but its hard to listen to everything, (if not impossible).
Theres alot of other Rapcore bands I dont know much about, and Rapcore is one of my favorite genre's, any suggestions?

jackhammer 09-13-2010 07:31 PM

1991. 3 years before 'Rap Rock' was even heard off:

1994. Same year as RATM but these guys are virtually unknown. Shocking really and much more in the spirit of Hip Hop in terms of using samples and different vocal techniques.

The film Judgement night was fairly average but the soundtrack is essential in terms of Rap Rock. 1995 and just one of many awesome tunes from the soundtrack:

Necromancer 09-13-2010 08:37 PM

I like all three of the above^! good choice, first time I've heard the first two, Thanks!
Rap Rock was mostly underground in the 80s and early 90s, didnt gain popularity in the mainstream until the mid-90s, as you've already stated hammer.
I like these two examples of early raprock by Run-DMC.

YouTube - RUN-DMC - King Of Rock

YouTube - Run DMC - Can You Rock It Like This

SATCHMO 09-13-2010 08:46 PM

I don't get the Run DMC/rapcore connection. They're hip hop, and they happen to have had a couple rock influenced songs.

If you're looking for suggestions I might recommend Look Daggers and their Suffer in Style album, but it's more progressive than "core" anything. Maybe some old school Body Count, would suit you well.


Jackhammer: Nice call on the Mordred.

Necromancer 09-13-2010 10:33 PM

Raprock
 
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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 931357)
I don't get the Run DMC/rapcore connection. They're hip hop, and they happen to have had a couple rock influenced songs.


DMC is classified in the hip/hop & raprock genres, I consider personally that Run-DMC helped lay a foundation that influenced countless bands & artist of the rapcore subgenre through the years, the fine lines of musical genre's are just so easy to crossover sometimes I know, why split hairs? I love it! :laughing:
The way alot of people sometimes precieve funk rock is in a same way as they do raprock, they are rock influenced songs & genres yes, but they are no more dominated by a hip hop, funk, or the soul genre, anymore than they are influenced by the rock genre, except where the basic rythm section and beat is more dominated by 'funk' to a certain extent, just my observation & opinion, no actual accounted facts.
I had originally thought about putting Raprock at the Title of the post, guess I forgot.. I think I quoted raprock in my original DMC post, I get why you would miss it since the thread mainly concerns Rapcore, I always try and remember to label the subject that Im talking about in the post's Title header, (sub-genre, etc.) when posting usually, anyway Thanks for the recomendations Satchmo! :)

Violent & Funky 09-14-2010 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 931342)
1994. Same year as RATM but these guys are virtually unknown. Shocking really and much more in the spirit of Hip Hop in terms of using samples and different vocal techniques.

Rage formed in 91 and released their debut in 92, brah...

Necromancer 09-14-2010 10:16 PM

These are a few personal favorites, some hegemonic subculture music with corporate and/or commercial entities.

(Rapcore)
YouTube - Saliva - Your Disease

YouTube - Saliva - Click Click Boom

(Rap Rock)
YouTube - Boom - P.O.D.

YouTube - P.O.D. - Youth Of The Nation (Video shot to Album Version Audio)

jackhammer 09-15-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 931410)
Rage formed in 91 and released their debut in 92, brah...

My bad. My usual spot on years/dates timeline failed me after many years :( Senser still kick arse though even if they sound dated and Mordred still beat them all to it ;)

sidewinder 09-15-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 931342)
1991. 3 years before 'Rap Rock' was even heard off:

Holy shit I probably haven't heard that song since about 1991! :yikes: Didn't even have any recollection of the band or song's name. Sounded vaguely familiar when I first started listening but then when the harder chorus came on and he took off his hat, it hit me! Damn. Good song. He really reminds me of Mike Patton around the time with his long hair.

Which reminds me, wasn't Faith No More doing rap-rock before this even? The Real Thing came out in 1989 with the single "Epic" (below for those that don't know it), and even Chuck Mosley's style before that was pretty much rap. Granted, they weren't scratching on turntables or using hip-hop samples and such.



Anthrax was pretty early in the game too with Attack of the Killer B's in 1991.

jackhammer 09-15-2010 06:36 PM

Yeah Epic had the Rap rhyme going on and the Chillis had it going on a little bit too but I think that with Mordred actually employing a 6th member solely for decks and samples really set them apart at the time.


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