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Unknown Soldier 10-09-2010 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 940674)
Most of the good bands you listed for the 90s are actually from the 80s (Sepultura, Melvins, Neurosis, Kreator, Death, Morbid Angel, Corrosion of Conformity, Ministry) and all the bad bands you listed for the 00s are from the 90s. And stuff like Pantera, Machine Head, Fear Factory, Korn and Deftones are perfect examples of why I give the 90s some low marks (and, yes, I realize some of even those bands started in the 80s).

I mentioned in the same post that you`re quoting from, that a lot of these bands were already formed before the 90`s. I was stating, that these bands released their best stuff in the 90`s regardless of when they were formed. Therefore I didn`t mention the likes of Metallica or even Iron maiden as their best stuff was clearly released in the 80`s.

Reading through the rest of the posts since yesterday, it seems my reference threw quite a few people off..........sorry for that.

I was just stating when their best albums came out, and not when they were formed. I can assure you, that I`m well aware of when these bands were formed.

Unknown Soldier 10-09-2010 03:23 AM

20 F**k off metal albums from the 90`s (One album from one group only):

Pantera- A Vulgar Display of Power
Slayer- Seasons in the Abyss
Megadeth- Rust in Peace
At the Gates- Slaughter of the Soul
Meshuggah- Destroy Erase Improve
In Flames- Whoracle
Death- Symbolic
Melvins- Houdini
Machine Head- Burn My Eyes
Neurosis-Through Silver in Blood
Nevermore- Dreaming Neon Black
Iced Earth-Something Wicked This Way Comes
Korn- Korn
Tiamat- Wildhoney
White Zombie- La Sexorcisto
Morbid Angel- Covenant
Hypocrisy- Final Chapter
Pentagram- BeForwarned
Corrosion of Conformity- Deliverance

and finally the daddy:

Sepultura- Roots

Janszoon 10-09-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 940817)
I mentioned in the same post that you`re quoting from, that a lot of these bands were already formed before the 90`s. I was stating, that these bands released their best stuff in the 90`s regardless of when they were formed. Therefore I didn`t mention the likes of Metallica or even Iron maiden as their best stuff was clearly released in the 80`s.

Reading through the rest of the posts since yesterday, it seems my reference threw quite a few people off..........sorry for that.

I was just stating when their best albums came out, and not when they were formed. I can assure you, that I`m well aware of when these bands were formed.

Okay. But Ministry, for example, had mostly pretty weak 90s output. Like I said previously all but one of their best albums came out in the 80s. And, though I certainly haven't checked out all of Kreator's albums, the one's that are generally considered classics are from the 80s.

Janszoon 10-09-2010 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 940818)
20 F**k off metal albums from the 90`s (One album from one group only):

Pantera- A Vulgar Display of Power
Slayer- Seasons in the Abyss
Megadeth- Rust in Peace
At the Gates- Slaughter of the Soul
Meshuggah- Destroy Erase Improve
In Flames- Whoracle
Death- Symbolic
Melvins- Houdini
Machine Head- Burn My Eyes
Neurosis-Through Silver in Blood
Nevermore- Dreaming Neon Black
Iced Earth-Something Wicked This Way Comes
Korn- Korn
Tiamat- Wildhoney
White Zombie- La Sexorcisto
Morbid Angel- Covenant
Hypocrisy- Final Chapter
Pentagram- BeForwarned
Corrosion of Conformity- Deliverance

and finally the daddy:

Sepultura- Roots


Here are my reactions to your list. :)

Good albums:
Death- Symbolic
Melvins- Houdini
Corrosion of Conformity- Deliverance
Sepultura- Roots

Barely qualify as 90s albums:
Slayer- Seasons in the Abyss
Megadeth- Rust in Peace

Good albums but these bands released better albums in the 00s:
Meshuggah- Destroy Erase Improve
Neurosis-Through Silver in Blood

Examples of why I don't rate 90s metal very highly:
Pantera- A Vulgar Display of Power
Korn- Korn
Machine Head- Burn My Eyes
White Zombie- La Sexorcisto

The rest are not albums I've heard.

Unknown Soldier 10-09-2010 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 940842)
Okay. But Ministry, for example, had mostly pretty weak 90s output. Like I said previously all but one of their best albums came out in the 80s. And, though I certainly haven't checked out all of Kreator's albums, the one's that are generally considered classics are from the 80s.

I`m not much of a ministry fan, but the best two for me are "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste" 1989 and "Psalm 69-How to Succeed and How to Suck Eggs" 1992.

Kreator like a lot of European thrash and power metal bands, suffered some teething problems in their early discography, and so most of their stuff in the 80`s I found very hit and miss. The three best Kreator albums are "Coma of Souls" 1990, "Cause for Conflict" 1996 and "Outcast" 1997. Sure....there is a heavy Slayer influence on parts of those albums, but they are the band`s best releases IMO.

I suppose the reason that I love 90`s metal so much, is that out of all the metal genres there are, groove metal is probably my favourite and groove metal was a dominant metal genre in the 90`s. Groups like Lamb of God are carrying on that tradition in the 00`s. Also Progressive metal really expanded and took off in the 90`s as well.

Unknown Soldier 10-09-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 940845)
Here are my reactions to your list. :)

Good albums:
Death- Symbolic
Melvins- Houdini
Corrosion of Conformity- Deliverance
Sepultura- Roots

Barely qualify as 90s albums:
Slayer- Seasons in the Abyss
Megadeth- Rust in Peace

Good albums but these bands released better albums in the 00s:
Meshuggah- Destroy Erase Improve
Neurosis-Through Silver in Blood

Examples of why I don't rate 90s metal very highly:
Pantera- A Vulgar Display of Power
Korn- Korn
Machine Head- Burn My Eyes
White Zombie- La Sexorcisto

The rest are not albums I've heard.

The Slayer and Megadeth albums may be 80`s in spirit but they have 1990 release dates. Have to disagree over Neurosis and Meshuggah. Despite the fact I love their material that I`ve heard in the 00`s as well.

The last four that you don`t like, well they are all commercial of which 3 are groove metal and 1 nu-metal, and as they say its just a question of choice here.


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