But does it not also have to do with the style the band play, or are acknowledged to espouse? Would you consider "Wild boys" a rock song? I personally would not, even though there are guitars and rock elements in it, it's a departure from the music Duran Duran usually played, and they were known as a pop, not a rock, group. Obviously, there's an inherent flaw in trying to label everything/one, but if you use that logic with "Beat it", then no, it's not a rock song, as Jackson was never (imo) a rock artiste. Was he the "king of rock" or the "king of pop"? I honestly don't think one song used with rock influences by a pop artiste can be called a rock song.

If anything, "Dirty Diana" is closer to rock (YAY Steve Stevens!) but even then, I think the general perception Jackson played pop makes it a pop song. If someone like maybe Metallica covered it, maybe then it would be a rock song, but I know a lot of pop bands who have SOME very heavy rock style material, but I would not personally consider those songs rock.

Ah, labels.
But I'm firmly in the camp that says no, "Beat it" is NOT a rock song --- despite the presence of EVH on it.

(Can I have change for my tuppence worth?) :)

I feel like I write this a lot these days, but I still don't think genres are exclusive so although I tend to lean towards one genre-definition of a song or an album, I don't see why a song can't be pop and rock at the same time.

I think Beat It is a pop-rock song. ;)

Wild Boys too!

Ah, but is it a pop-rock song or a rock-pop song? And who gets to sit at the top of the table? And while we're at it, why is it that no matter which queue you join it will always move the slowest? :) :confused:

Tore, I had a quick look at your thread for Foobar. You have to script everything?? Sorry, no way is that for me. I know zero computer language (unless you count HTML) and have no desire to start learning how to programme a media player. Winamp will do me fine, and I'll stick to my folders.

Thanks for the thought: not for me though.

is there a difference between

"Rock" & "Rock n roll" Lol

Not really. I tried out foobar that way, but you'd probably be better off using a premade skin or theme made by someone else first. There are many such skins out there. Here's an example :

DarkOne v3.0.1 by ~tedgo on deviantART

.. But eventually, to get the most out of foobar, you should get into some scripting. That's how you really get the most out of the program. It's very simple and doesn't take long to learn, at least not if you've done a little bit of scripting before, but I can understand that some think it's too much work.

edit :

An example of scripting can be like this .. You have a list of songs with columns for artist and albums and track titles and so on. You want to add another column that shows the disc number. You go into the preferences and add a column (no scripting needed to do that) and then write a little script determining what info the column should show. You write something like :

[Disc %discnumber%]

The brackets means the script will only trigger if the id3 tag %discnumber% exists. If triggered, the script will output the word "Disc" followed by the value of the discnumber tag, f.ex "Disc 3".

Most of the scripting I do by far is for little things like that.