Billy Corgan slams Soundgarden and Pavement
 

Billy Corgan: 'Soundgarden and Pavement are only back together to make money' | News | NME.COM

Jesus Christ. People usually get less obnoxious as they get older, not more.

Interesting

"Pot meet kettle". [Chris Cornell]

But don't most of these groups just get back together to make a buck, they've usually seen better days but when the money runs out you can't beat a reunion.

I love how he criticizes other bands for trying to make money yet nevertheless refers to his own band as a "business".

I think he means he can't run Smashing Pumpkins as "an oldies business [because] ...it's actually not a very good business." - it doesn't make good business sense.


I think that is true for any age of music.

Yes, that is explicitly what he said. What's your point?

I actually agree with Corgan on this one.

While I didn't like what I heard from Oceania at least there's an honest to goodness new album out for his band. Sure he's trying to make money, but at least he's offering something new.

What did Soundgarden do? They released a weak leftover from the Badmotorfinger days and a live disc from the waning days of the band.

Here's my biggest beef with SGs whole deal though. Back in '97 when they first broke up they publicly discussed not one, but two compilations to be released for the fans. The first was the A-Sides greatest hits package, the companion comp was an appropriately named B-Sides, featuring all the bonus tracks that were only featured on singles, or the super rare double album version of Badmotorfinger, and in some cases tunes only ever released in certain markets.

Then there was a boo-hoo article / interview with Thayil in a Rolling Stone type magazine a while back leading up to the reunion announcement where he openly complained about not profiting from the 2nd gen grunge fans. How their label contacts all essentially disappeared as the conglomerates ate up smaller labels etc. He did bring up a good point - when was last time you saw a SG t-shirt for sale? They simply didn't exist anymore until they reunited. But his comments made his purpose clear - and it wasn't to just rock out anymore.

At this point I'm more embarrassed than excited at the reformed Soundgarden.

It sounds like you only agree with him about Soundgarden though. What about Pavement? That's where I found Corgan's comments particularly ironic since Smashing Pumpkins are a far more commercial band than Pavement.

Im sure there is some truth to what he said, but maybe they just enjoy playin music an touring as well. Whether or not he's right, I think it's a douche bag move to come out and say all that.

True, though to be honest I never got into Pavement (I know Slanted and Enchanted is supposed to be awesome and they had a video where they all got haircuts but that's it) nor was I aware they were doing a reunion so I can't really comment on that side of his comment.

It seems to me that Billy Corgan is cashing in on the Smashing Pumkins name at this point, so he sounds like a bit of a hypocrite as far as I'm concerned.
They look like more of a tribute band now.
Perhaps he should change the band's name and STFU.

Billy Corgan is a brat. Always has been. Like a true has-been.

I didn't see Billy Corgan rerfer to his band as a business in that article, so I didn't see any irony in the statement. He only thinks of bands that reunite and tour without new material as an oldies business. He may have said his band is a business in other interviews. (I can't understand people who are in a band that makes money and not realize they're in a business.) You're right there is irony in finger pointing at bands who want to make money - Smashing Pumpkin is his cash cow.

My ironic moment in the article was when he said it's "boring." I would rather a band stick to old material that I like than try to pass new boring material I don't care for so they can sell their latest albums (which is normal business practice for bands).

But for the most part I agree with it. I can't see how a recording artist in could be solely about "art for art sake" with no business aspect to it. It seems for the most part music takes a back seat to all other aspects of the music business especially for big name stars.

Good grief. He may not have used the words "my band is a business" but he was clearly referring to his band as business in the article.

What an insufferable prick. Kind of get a bad taste in my mouth when I look back on the days when I use to practically worship the man.

Billy Corgan is right. Always has been. Always will be.

Oh hail no. Say, isn't your username SoundgardenRocks for a reason?

"Smashing pumpkin slams pavement" --- now THERE's a visual I can appreciate! :rofl:

Billy talks cock. Always has. Always will.

I'm pretty sure Mr. Sensitive is still upset over the lyrics that Pavement wrote in 1994 for their song, Range Life:

"Out on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins
Nature kids, they don't have no function
I don't understand what they mean
And I could really give a fuck
The Stone Temple Pilots,
They're elegant bachelors
They're foxy to me
Are they foxy to you?
I will agree
There isn't absolutely nothing
Nothing more than me
Dreamin' dream dream dream"