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Orbster 03-13-2013 02:28 PM

Is there any good metal anymore?
 
I fell out of love with metal some years ago now and I probably wouldn't recognise many of the acts in Kerrang or Metal Hammer (if they're still going?) these days.

Last metal album I bought was Machine Head's "Unto The Locust" but that's been the only one for many years other than Slayer's output.

So, is there any bands out there that are are actually worth a listen or is it just the same old guff re-hashed?

Over to you, legions...

Paul Smeenus 03-13-2013 02:32 PM

Anything related to Devin Townsend IMO, although I think it's like asking if anyone makes good waffles anymore

Key 03-13-2013 02:53 PM

^Seconded. Also, there's a lot of great metal out there, allow me to post some videos for your ears.

Disarmonia Mundi


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Necromancer 03-13-2013 02:58 PM

Well Yeah, Progressive Metal is one of the more popular subgenres.

Salami 03-13-2013 03:00 PM

I think the more recent metal releases are getting closer to the popular music and rock sound, for example from Stratovarius' latest release "Halcyon Days" which seems to have a lot of the elements of pop in an obvious metal song. Personally I enjoy these newer releases a lot more then the older heavy metal -- anything beats songs about dragons, troll slaying and quests in my opinion.


hip hop bunny hop 03-13-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Orbster (Post 1297187)
I fell out of love with metal some years ago now and I probably wouldn't recognise many of the acts in Kerrang or Metal Hammer (if they're still going?) these days.

Last metal album I bought was Machine Head's "Unto The Locust" but that's been the only one for many years other than Slayer's output.

So, is there any bands out there that are are actually worth a listen or is it just the same old guff re-hashed?

Over to you, legions...

Is there good popular metal music being produced by young bands? No.

Is the most popular segment of underground metal producing good music? For the most part, no - it's dominated by redundant, flash in the pan bands playing the most en vogue genres, which at this moment is post black metal, progressive noodly noodly metal, and deathcore.

Anyways, I'd avoid Devin Townsend. The best he can approach is fun, but generally speaking his music is overproduced to a degree which is painful.

Sug0rt 03-13-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Salami (Post 1297200)
I think the more recent metal releases are getting closer to the popular music and rock sound, for example from Stratovarius' latest release "Halcyon Days" which seems to have a lot of the elements of pop in an obvious metal song. Personally I enjoy these newer releases a lot more then the older heavy metal -- anything beats songs about dragons, troll slaying and quests in my opinion.


I'm guessing you're not a huge fan of Power Metal.

Getting back to the OP I think there are still good bands, although most are not very well-known. You get bands like Hammerfall, Powerwolf, Raubtier, etc which I think make good music and they're all newish. It seems that most people think of metal as things like Slipknot, Rammstein these days which is a huge shame.

Of course, you don't get this these days:


Key 03-13-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1297218)

Anyways, I'd avoid Devin Townsend. The best he can approach is fun, but generally speaking his music is overproduced to a degree which is painful.

Terrible way to speak of an artist with as much talent as Devin. I'm ok with it when people lay their opinion on an artist, but to say his music is overproduced is not even a fair assessment. His way around studio equipment is far better than most that I've heard.

edwardc77 03-13-2013 07:01 PM

Contemporary metal has been declining in creativity for more than a decade now.
In my opinion one of the last very good metal albums was Toxicity by System of a Down.

Janszoon 03-13-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by edwardc77 (Post 1297262)
Contemporary metal has been declining in creativity for more than a decade now.
In my opinion one of the last very good metal albums was Toxicity by System of a Down.

I completely disagree. I think the past decade or so has been a bit of a heavy metal golden age honestly. Some examples, two of them from right in your backyard:







The Batlord 03-14-2013 08:27 AM

Yeah, if you wanna be lazy and just listen to Metal Hammer bands then you're gonna get crap. Metal is as good as it's ever been. Better even. You just gotta have some initiative and go and look.

Isbjørn 03-14-2013 08:57 AM

SLIPKN0T!!1!

Well, there is Dragonforce and Nightwish, and Iron Maiden is still touring. Dark Tranquility is pretty good, and I guess Dimmu Borgir is too.

Plankton 03-14-2013 09:04 AM

Try on some Dew Scented:


DEW-SCENTED - "Arise From Decay" (official music video) - YouTube

LoathsomePete 03-14-2013 09:14 AM

I've been enjoying a lot of Nachtmystium and Oranssi Pazuzu lately, both of whom sound kind of like if Pink Floyd and Darkthrone had a baby.



Key 03-14-2013 09:57 AM

^ that's amazing!

TosinAsLeader 03-14-2013 11:09 AM

Look up "Weightless" by Animals As Leaders. Great band and song.

Plankton 03-14-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TosinAsLeader (Post 1297431)
Look up "Weightless" by Animals As Leaders. Great band and song.

Tosin is an outstanding guitar player.

edwardc77 03-14-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1297291)
I completely disagree. I think the past decade or so has been a bit of a heavy metal golden age honestly. Some examples, two of them from right in your backyard:








Well ok, I do admit that some of these underground bands sound promising.
I know that if you look hard enough, you’re bound to find something interesting.

Nevertheless, regarding to my personal taste, it is still very hard to find albums of consistent quality like I easily did in the past.
Albums like: Toxicity, The Downward spiral, Blues for the red sun, Chaos Ad, Angel Dust, Around the fur,Vulgar Display of Power……….

The Sane Psycho 03-14-2013 12:38 PM

Sure there are, you just have to look. There's a lot of good modern Thrash Metal bands (referred to as the New Wave Of Thrash Metal), like Toxic Holocaust, Warpath (UK), Lich King, and Gama Bomb.

hip hop bunny hop 03-14-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1297252)
Terrible way to speak of an artist with as much talent as Devin. I'm ok with it when people lay their opinion on an artist, but to say his music is overproduced is not even a fair assessment. His way around studio equipment is far better than most that I've heard.

Eh, really? "City" sounds godawful, and to give a specific example "Underneath the Waves" is terrible. Those effects have not aged gracefully.

Key 03-14-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1297462)
Eh, really? "City" sounds godawful, and to give a specific example "Underneath the Waves" is terrible. Those effects have not aged gracefully.

Respectfully, I'll respond so you think i'm not ignoring you.

For response sake, that's all I'll say.

Norg 03-14-2013 04:57 PM

is there any good metal anymore ...... ehhhhh maybe i wouldnt care tho


im like u prob i grew up on Metal i loved heavy metal and all its different colors and styles

but like any sane person i ...... grew out and started to listen to everything after that

IMO Metal is kinda like a gateway to ...MUSIC

Unknown Soldier 03-14-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1297524)

IMO Metal is kinda like a gateway to ...MUSIC

How is metal a gateway to other music?

TosinAsLeader 03-16-2013 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1297434)
Tosin is an outstanding guitar player.

Hence my user name XP

Engine 03-16-2013 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1297531)
How is metal a gateway to other music?

Answer: When I was 13 I almost exclusively listened to metal and then I realized that other music was worthwhile. I already loved The Cure but metal led me to punk and then to bands that were not either of those but still sort of heavy i.e. Jane's Addiction. Then I realized that I loved Violent Femmes and Public Enemy (who had worked with Anthrax) and then I liked Stone Roses and Ride and Sonic Youth and Pavement and then I realized that people who only liked metal were silly and unfashionable but I still liked metal. Your question seems pretty ignorant really. Where were you in the 80s and 90s?

Unknown Soldier 03-16-2013 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1297829)
Answer: When I was 13 I almost exclusively listened to metal and then I realized that other music was worthwhile. I already loved The Cure but metal led me to punk and then to bands that were not either of those but still sort of heavy i.e. Jane's Addiction. Then I realized that I loved Violent Femmes and Public Enemy (who had worked with Anthrax) and then I liked Stone Roses and Ride and Sonic Youth and Pavement and then I realized that people who only liked metal were silly and unfashionable but I still liked metal. Your question seems pretty ignorant really. Where were you in the 80s and 90s?

Your answer could apply to any kind of music. But nothing really suggests metal being a gateway more than other genres of music.

As for where I was, in London most of the time.

Paul Smeenus 03-16-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1297844)
Your answer could apply to any kind of music. But nothing really suggests metal being a gateway more than other genres of music.


I agree with this. I came to metal from prog.

Unknown Soldier 03-16-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1297888)
I agree with this. I came to metal from prog.

I came to metal from AOR and prog as well.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-16-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1297829)
Answer: When I was 13 I almost exclusively listened to metal and then I realized that other music was worthwhile. I already loved The Cure but metal led me to punk and then to bands that were not either of those but still sort of heavy i.e. Jane's Addiction. Then I realized that I loved Violent Femmes and Public Enemy (who had worked with Anthrax) and then I liked Stone Roses and Ride and Sonic Youth and Pavement and then I realized that people who only liked metal were silly and unfashionable but I still liked metal. Your question seems pretty ignorant really. Where were you in the 80s and 90s?

That's virtually identical to me, I discovered metal, then punk then I went onto The Stooges, MC5, Iggy, New York Dolls before finding indie & dance music.

The Batlord 03-16-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1297898)
That's virtually identical to me, I discovered metal, then punk then I went onto The Stooges, MC5, Iggy, New York Dolls before finding indie & dance music.

What are the chances that you actually dance?

jackhammer 03-17-2013 09:10 PM

Yes:


Shame they split up recently :(

Norg 03-19-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1297829)
Answer: When I was 13 I almost exclusively listened to metal and then I realized that other music was worthwhile. I already loved The Cure but metal led me to punk and then to bands that were not either of those but still sort of heavy i.e. Jane's Addiction. Then I realized that I loved Violent Femmes and Public Enemy (who had worked with Anthrax) and then I liked Stone Roses and Ride and Sonic Youth and Pavement and then I realized that people who only liked metal were silly and unfashionable but I still liked metal. Your question seems pretty ignorant really. Where were you in the 80s and 90s?

what he said cept with different bands :yeah:


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