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gilbeiry 03-30-2013 03:45 AM

What is the difference between rock & metal?
 
What is the difference between rock & metal?

Isbjørn 03-30-2013 04:20 AM

Metal started as a subgenre of rock, and came from blues- and psyhedelic rock in the late 60s. Rock and metal education thread

Psy-Fi 03-30-2013 05:28 AM

In rock, the amplifiers go up to 10.

In metal, the amplifiers go up to 11.


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Isbjørn 03-30-2013 09:02 AM

Metal is:
-Louder volume
-Blues scales
-Strong vocals
-Shock value
-Extended solos
-Double guitars

Also, metal is a LOT more complex than most types of rock (riffs and solo work, I mean). I think a lot of rock music has simple, rather short solos, but metal solos tend to be a lot longer and with more bluesy improvisation.

jackhammer 03-30-2013 08:02 PM

Metal has a higher concentration of heavier elements than Rock does.

That's the Science lesson over.

Janszoon 03-31-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1302365)
Metal has a higher concentration of heavier elements than Rock does.

That's the Science lesson over.

:bowdown:

Norg 03-31-2013 09:52 PM

I always thought ROck was more bluesy then Metal

stuff like speed and Thrash and death metal pretty much said **** they blues riffs

Rjinn 03-31-2013 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1302658)
I always thought ROck was more bluesy then Metal

stuff like speed and Thrash and death metal pretty much said **** they blues riffs

I think you got to take into consideration the style of rock you're talking about here. You wouldn't really call punk rock "bluesy" would you?

All in all Jackhammer pretty much summed it up.

Isbjørn 04-01-2013 06:32 AM

Acid rock, blues rock and rock and roll is bluesy.
Punk rock, garage rock, prog rock (you name it) CAN be bluesy.

Rjinn 04-01-2013 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1302700)
Punk rock, garage rock, prog rock (you name it) CAN be bluesy.

So can metal. Take Clutch, Motörhead, Orange Goblin, Black Sabbath and Corrosion of Conformity as examples. I'm talking about definable standards of a genre. It doesn't mean they can't be innovative.

Isbjørn 04-01-2013 08:40 AM

After all, metal came from the blues.

The Batlord 04-01-2013 10:13 AM

I think this is a pointless question. Rock and metal are two genres that have so much diversity that it's impossible to answer. Is the difference between garage rock and death metal the same difference as the difference between prog rock and doom metal? What about the difference between garage rock and prog rock for that matter? Death metal and doom metal?

Isbjørn 04-01-2013 12:19 PM

We're talking in general. Various genres of metal shares elements which aren't common in traditional rock genres (roots rock, garage rock, rock and roll, or just anything called classic rock). I'd say most metal bands tend to play faster and louder than a lot of bands in those genres.

jackhammer 04-01-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1302472)
:bowdown:

At least someone got it :) TY!

The Batlord 04-02-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1302809)
We're talking in general. Various genres of metal shares elements which aren't common in traditional rock genres (roots rock, garage rock, rock and roll, or just anything called classic rock). I'd say most metal bands tend to play faster and louder than a lot of bands in those genres.

Is that really useful? Is it interesting to say that they just play faster? If that's the closest you can get to a real difference then this seems like a rather dull subject.

Isbjørn 04-02-2013 08:57 AM

People will have to listen to really TELL the difference, words won't do.


The Batlord 04-02-2013 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1303098)
People will have to listen to really TELL the difference, words won't do.


So he basically just took two arbitrary and almost completely similar (and dull) styles of music, decided to call one rock and the other metal and that's supposed to mean something?

Isbjørn 04-02-2013 10:04 AM

Apparently

gunnels 04-02-2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1302365)
Metal has a higher concentration of heavier elements than Rock does.

That's the Science lesson over.

:laughing:

Euronomus 04-03-2013 04:25 PM

to quote Potter Stewert " I know it When I see it"

Norg 04-03-2013 05:53 PM

to me rock is this


Jack White - Fly Farm Blues (It Might Get Loud).avi - YouTube

and Metal is dis


Kreator-Violent Revolution (High Quality) - YouTube

Isbjørn 04-04-2013 01:58 AM

To me, rock is this:



...and metal is this:


Norg 04-04-2013 02:20 PM

to me rock Is


Eric Clapton - Cocaine - YouTube


and metal is


TESTAMENT - More Than Meets The Eye - YouTube



LOL

The Batlord 04-05-2013 08:56 AM

All you people are doing is putting up two arbitrary videos of two arbitrary styles of rock and metal and acting like they are in any way relevant.

RL Clown 04-07-2013 09:25 AM

Metal is a type of rock music that features harsh-sounding blues elements. In metal, the vocals are very hard to hear. Rock music is just rock.

Unknown Soldier 04-07-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RL Clown (Post 1304562)
In metal, the vocals are very hard to hear.

So why are metal gods like Dio so easy to understand?

Neapolitan 04-07-2013 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilbeiry (Post 1302148)
What is the difference between rock & metal?

Rocks you find in the ground and metals you find on the Periodic table.

Isbjørn 04-08-2013 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RL Clown (Post 1304562)
Metal is a type of rock music that features harsh-sounding blues elements. In metal, the vocals are very hard to hear. Rock music is just rock.

Are you dizzy? Have you ever HEARD pioneering bands like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest? They're not that hard to understand?

Norg 04-08-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1304827)
Are you dizzy? Have you ever HEARD pioneering bands like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest? They're not that hard to understand?


Tony iommi himself said Black Sabbath isn't a Heavy metal band or Metal band


I think he said we are just a rock band

Isbjørn 04-09-2013 08:33 AM

There's a lot of debate on that, and I'd consider Black Sabbath a hard rock/acid rock band. But they are one the bands with the most impact on the genre, and most later metal bands cite Black Sabbath as a huge influence.


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