Do you know something we don't, O Font of Hard Rock Knowledge? ;)

Three pensioners one with a shot voice and a vegetarian drummer, all trying to live on past glories, one doesn't have to be a wise font of knowledge to see the outcome of that.

....... and also there was no need to get sarcy;)

Not sure what being a vegetarian would change the outcome of how the album sounds, though I also disagree that your shot voice comment is a bit of a stretch as well. I don't think it's fair to judge an album before it's even released.

Zero sarcasm intended I assure you. I thought maybe you had got hold of an advance copy. And given your genuinely encyclopaedic knowledge of hard rock and heavy metal, I was deferring to your opinion.
Seriously.

Nothing wrong with veggies. I just don't like them in my meat pie.

Why not? 90% of these get togethers by old bands looking to make another buck, usually have the same dismal outcome.

My knowledge is not that great from 2000 onwards and you can be as sarcy as you want.

Still, there's always the possibility that it may be different. Plus, it's not like Ozzy hasn't been active the last couple years, he's been doing his solo thing. I do understand your point with getting together as an old band, but it's not like completely out of the blue.

And 90% of fans think the above.

I agree concerning most of the reunion albums by popular bands crapping out at a high percentage of the time. This particular album will more than likely wind up sounding like a throwback to Ozzy's solo career.

Just my 2cents worth, nothing factual.

Vegetarians are sickly and weak so the drumming is probably gonna be sickly and weak as well. They need a proper cocaine addict behind the skins.

I remember you predicting this same thing about Asia, and you were right on the money: "XXX" was a pile of tosh. I had expected something so much better and was very disappointed. You, on the other hand, seemed prepared for what they were about to foist upon us. So on that basis, you could very well be right. I reckon I'll still give it a chance though: it IS Sabbath, after all...

I usually take notice of your opinions highly as you have been there and done that but dismissing an album before it's even released is beneath you mate.

It will probably will be a massive disappointment to us all but it might not be so let's hold back our opinions until we actually hear the damn thing.

I am personally stoked to be seeing them in December even if they are old farts because even at my 40+ age, I never got to see them and pleased to see a band that haven't reformed just to play golden oldies and have gone into the studio to see if the old magic is there.

If the end product is crap I will be the first to admit it but it could be golden and life doesn't stop at 30!

It's because I've seen so much hype over the years, of older artists looking to make another album, which has usually turned out to be a pile of tosh. There is always I reckon the 10% chance that I'm wrong and nobody more than me would love to see Black Sabbath put out a great album. Let's just say I'm not expecting them too.

I'm a strong believer of that phrase and the life begins at 40 one as well. But when it comes to bands I've always struggled to accept my favourite artists getting old and in some ways I always like to remember them how they were.

Ozzy has released a lot of stuff lately that I'd rather not even try listening to, just based on the singles I've heard on the radio.

I'll probably listen to Dio Sabbath before I listen to this album. That video at the beginning of the thread seemed promising for about a minute. Once the heavy guitar kicks in you think the song might take off, but then it gets quiet again, and Ozzy starts singing, and it all falls apart. tl;dl

BTW guise, the new album is now available to stream on iTunes. Having a listen now :cool:

Sounds great!

Streaming now. Holy hell, this is amazing!

I'm not keen on the start of it but when it really gets into it, it's brilliant. Seeing them in December at the London O2! Saw them last year at Download Festival, Ozzy jumping around the stage like a crazy man!

This is off topic but thought I'd post, wasn't Ozzy clean for like 20 years or something? Didn't drink or do drugs at all, then recently he admitted he had been doing drugs again?

I'd been under the impression Ozzy had been clean & sober since the early 90s but I saw a documentary about him a few months back and it turns out he didn't get clean until he saw himself in such a state on the first series of The Osbournes.

I had heard that as of very recently, he's back on it. I'm playing the new record for the first time now and I'm only on the fourth track but it's putting me to sleep.

In his book, Ozzy said he was on drugs all during the Osbournes show, which is why he was so out of it on the show. He was sober for awhile after that, but supposedly within the year got off the wagon again.

its ok its a straight RAW rock album like prob no click track recorded on two inch tape LOL I know rick likes to do that sometimes


first listen yeah for a elitist its very boring but im a sucka for ozzys voice and the DUal work of Iommi and geezer

anyway I don't think a lot of Heavy metal (casual) fans are gonna like this there is not a lot of Heavy tracks a lot of blues and dark moody sludgy songs

but They kept it close to the vest I would of been more exicted if they went even deeper like do a straight up Drone/Doom album with sprinkles of Blues n country since that what it seems the type of music they like

hopefully this is the New better single Ozzy since now he is free of SHaron didn't they get a divorce

now he can hang out with his brothers more Iommi and Geezer LOL and we don't have to wait another 4 years for another Sabbath album

This song sounds as phoned in as possible. I'm just as excited to hear a new Aerosmith or Rolling Stones album (i.e. not even slightly).

I'm listening to '13' again and I still just don't quite know what to make of it yet.

Initially I thought it was...forced, may be the best word to describe it. 'Phoned in', as Engine says above, may also have described how I felt about it. Not bad, but just kind of unnecessary. However, by the end of my first listen I was starting to enjoy what I was hearing a lot more.

Second time around I think it's maybe a little more than that. It's more than I had hoped or would have expected for it to be. Theres maybe a little more thought gone into some of these tracks than I had anticipated or originally given credit for. It seems to be a record that I think the band have taken very seriously, rather than simply 'phone it in'...but theres still something that holds me back a little from saying it's particularly anything more than a 'solid', respectable record. Especially for their age.

Maybe it will continue to grow on me.

there balled track is like a planet caravan ripoff part 2 lOL

I like the ending tho its like the beginning of there first Record like this album is a prequel or something LOL

Where balled track?

There balled track. There castle.

Was it a power balled?

im talking about there melodic non heavy song bring out the acoustic guitars and kongo drums

Zeitgeist

I love the fact that one person here gets me. :beer:

Im going through your 25 albums thread as we speak.

But did you make a Young Frankenstein pun?

Awe my God x

I think that the new single is a standard offering from Black Sabbath. No alarms went off in my head saying this is fantastic, but my finger did not hit the skip button either. I think for myself where the album fell short was the length of it. Eight songs, or even seven would have been enough to capture the quality of guitar playing and drumming along with Ozzy's vocals. It was like a car trip where the kids keep asking are we there yet?????
There is your typical ballad offering which was quite nice to hear and also a more up tempo more hard rock vocal style on some of the songs, but even as a life time fan of this band I found after the sixth, or seventh song which presented the same sound it got a little long in the tooth. There was not enough variance in that many songs to keep my attention. All and all I will burn a copy with select songs on it from the album for future listening.

I liked it and I think they will do well with it......... give it time....

Ozzy sounds good on it....

It might be just a perfect excuse to get together again and go on tour. I think it's just all right; after all, this is the real Black Sabbath, and the fact that Ward will no longer play there makes me feel a bit sad. Black Sabbath will always be a supreme band; the mother of many other thousands of metal bands no matter what. There are lots of not well-known songs yet to be found out. The Writ is a flawless one and nobody talks about it, while Paranoid has got me somewhat jaded, as it were. There are lots of examples.

end of the beginning <3

age of reason <3