Is Grunge dead?

ssettimo · 08-09-2014, 10:57 PM

Okay, so I'm wrote a research paper on the Seattle Sound movement and it's lasting impacts. I will be turning this paper into about 30 pages.
Anyway, I'm just curious if you think Grunge is dead.

Mantis · 08-10-2014, 12:41 PM

I thnk grunge means something rather different to 2014 than it did to 1994 but I'd say it's still alive and well, albeit in a heavy evolved form.

The Batlord · 08-10-2014, 01:08 PM

If you mean the grunge movement that was all over the radio back in the early nineties, then it's dead. Dead dead. Don't even waste a clean fork. All that exists now are ****ty post-post grunge bands that probably have more in common with alt metal or arena rock and just so happen to kind sorta maybe sound a tad like Pearl Jam.

If you mean the grunge movement then it's even more dead. Grunge was basically just slow-to-mid-paced hardcore. Nirvana was one of, if not the only band that was actually grunge when grunge was popular. Alice In Chains was a metal band that just so happened to be from Seattle. Pearl Jam was a classic rock band that just so happened to have two guys who used to be in a grunge band (Green River, not Mother Love Bone, who was also not a grunge band). Soundgarden was grunge sure, but they were just as much a metal band with a Led Zeppelin fetish. And any band that were called grunge but were really just a Pearl Jam rip off (Stone Temple Pilots, Candlebox, etc) were really just classic rock bands that didn't have a clue. There were a few other actual grunge bands, like the Melvins, Mudhoney, or Tad, but in general they went unnoticed.

**Janszoon** · 08-10-2014, 03:26 PM

Dead. So dead it's long past the point of even smelling bad anymore.

The Batlord · 08-10-2014, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Dead. So dead it's long past the point of even smelling bad anymore.

Nah, Pearl Jam still stinks.

Vitne Eveille · 08-10-2014, 07:26 PM

There's bound to be some grunge bands out there. MTV & major labels don't dictate the music industry anymore, so anything is possible. Niche genres can gain quite a following.

TheBig3 · 08-10-2014, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Nah, Pearl Jam still stinks.

nicely done!

Necromancer · 08-10-2014, 07:46 PM

Of course modern grunge still exist under the label of post grunge just like blues rock and psychedelic rock, and so on still exist in the modern era. You only have to surf youtube in order to find the music and bands. But it is nowhere as popular as it was during the early to mid nineties.

Suggesting that the core grunge bands Alice in Chains and Stone Temple Pilots were not grunge is preposterous. All of the top Seattle grunge bands basically used the same style of depressive, etc. lyrics with their music.
I will say that the Stone Temple Pilots evolved into a more pop/rock mainstream sound and style with their music later on during the mid to late 90s.

I'm not going to tell you that all of these bands only fit under the grunge label and not the heavy metal genre, It doesn't really matter which way you go with it, it's still core grunge in the end.

The Batlord · 08-10-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

Of course modern grunge still exist under the label of post grunge just like blues rock and psychedelic rock, and so on still exist in the modern era. You only have to surf youtube in order to find the music and bands. But it is nowhere as popular as it was during the early to mid nineties.

Suggesting that the core grunge bands Alice in Chains and Stone Temple Pilots were not grunge is preposterous. All of the top Seattle grunge bands basically used the same style of depressive, etc. lyrics with their music.
I will say that the Stone Temple Pilots evolved into a more pop/rock mainstream sound and style with their music later on during the mid to late 90s.

I'm not going to tell you that all of these bands only fit under the grunge label and not the heavy metal genre, It doesn't really matter which way you go with it, it's still core grunge in the end.

It is not preposterous because they are not grunge bands. Stone Temple Pilots were a Pearl Jam rip off band. Pearl Jam was explicitly not a grunge band. Half the band quit an actual grunge band because they did not want to play grunge. They wanted to indulge their love of classic rock and so they formed Mother Love Bone, and the rest is history. Ergo, any band who takes their sound from Pearl Jam, such as Stone Temple Pilots, is not a grunge band.

And Alice In Chains may have been influenced by actual grunge, but they were a metal band. They started out playing metal covers. They played their first tour with Slayer, Anthrax, and Megadeth. Their name was originally supposed to be a name for a hair band for god's sake. If you're going to call them a grunge band then you may as well call Danzig one too. AIC is closer to them than they ever were to Nirvana.

Just because bands happen to be associated with a genre that was packaged by record labels and MTV does not mean that they were actually of that genre. The grunge sound that was sold to the masses was for the most part not grunge. Period.

Neapolitan · 08-10-2014, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Dead. So dead it's long past the point of even smelling bad anymore.

Grunge is so dead.

How dead is it?

... you can only buy used Grunge records in a cemetery.

08-09-2014, 10:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Mantis Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Here Posts: 50	I thnk grunge means something rather different to 2014 than it did to 1994 but I'd say it's still alive and well, albeit in a heavy evolved form.

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Vitne Eveille Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 64	There's bound to be some grunge bands out there. MTV & major labels don't dictate the music industry anymore, so anything is possible. Niche genres can gain quite a following.

08-10-2014, 07:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	Of course modern grunge still exist under the label of post grunge just like blues rock and psychedelic rock, and so on still exist in the modern era. You only have to surf youtube in order to find the music and bands. But it is nowhere as popular as it was during the early to mid nineties. Suggesting that the core grunge bands Alice in Chains and Stone Temple Pilots were not grunge is preposterous. All of the top Seattle grunge bands basically used the same style of depressive, etc. lyrics with their music. I will say that the Stone Temple Pilots evolved into a more pop/rock mainstream sound and style with their music later on during the mid to late 90s. I'm not going to tell you that all of these bands only fit under the grunge label and not the heavy metal genre, It doesn't really matter which way you go with it, it's still core grunge in the end.