Hi, im new in metal!
 

Hi guys. I dont know if this Thread is already created... but...

So, i started listening metal and rock music recently, and im enjoying bands like, Soulfly, Sepultura, Pantera, Megadeth, Deftones (i really love deftones!!!) , Coal Chamber, Nile, Mastodon, Exhorder, etc...

And i always want to discover new music, but some times is hard, and so, i wanted you to tell me some bands (based on the bands i just said before) that i might like...

Thx guys :laughing:

P.S: Sorry if my english is not the best...

Can never go wrong with Deftones, Pantera, Mastodon. Good choices there.

Try this out.

Call this Metalcore. While She Sleeps is a good band to start with, as far as Metalcore goes. I'd also recommend Protest The Hero.

Welcome to metal! :D

I think you would like Gojira, Entombed, Slayer, Machine Head, Kreator, Tool, Bolt Thrower, Nailbomb and Death.

A few examples:

Yeah man, i know metalcore is hated for some guys, but i think that some metalcore bands are just awesome.


Nailbomb is other band i love, i think i love almost everything Max does :laughing:

That was actually pretty awesome. Using gang vocals in place of the usual generic melodic chorus is actually a pretty good idea.

Right dude!! I'm listening their latest album, and is pretty good!

Since I don't feel like typing it all over again...

http://www.musicbanter.com/introduct...o-there-3.html
See second post.

Thanks dude, there's a lot of bands to check out :laughing:

Don't get me started. ;)

Btw, you dont know any band similiar to Deftones ? I'm really digging their sound...

I had never heard of them before, so I'm listening to some of their material now. They're not really my cup of tea, which means I'll have to disappoint you on this one.

You'd never heard of Deftones? Weird. I could give a crap about them, but they're still one of those groups that are part of white male pop culture.

Do you like old school Heavy Metal?

similar to deftones:

wow!

Nothing wrong with Metalcore. It's a great genre.

You'd like their albums then.

Islander.

The only band to come around to pull influence from Deftones, and not sound like a rip off band of Deftones sound. Islander make it work for them pretty well.

I'll start with my favorite song from them. New Wave.











Even though you're right. How dare you!

Shut your whore mouth.

Tried a couple. Bored after about five minutes. They've got a sound, but not much in the way of interesting songs.

Give them another album after a touring cycle with some more diverse bands, maybe they will develop more from that and put something out you will like.

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Darkest Hour is a band you should look in to. A favorite of mine. The beginning of Hypatia Rising always gets me pumped. Entire song does, it's epic and awesome.

Melodic metalcore is largely a boring as **** genre, but there's some gold to be found. Only problem being that I can only take so much before I have to go listen to something else, as there isn't a whole lot in the way of variation.


Along with Killswitch, these guys kind of kickstarted the whole thing, and they still sound pretty sweet.




I have a lot more respect for PtH than I do other bands, as they actually have a unique sound.




My guilty pleasure band. They're Johnny Come Lately's who basically piggy backed on an already played out genre, but they really know how to rip off the earlier bands while using quasi-thrash to add more bite than most.




A very hit-or-miss band for me, but this song has one hell of a riff.




Here are some of the bands that were the transition from hardcore to what we think of as metalcore. Far superior for the most part.

Poison the Well were a band that were more influential than they were successful, but without them all those bands above may not have come along.




Anybody exploring metalcore has to listen to Converge. It's just a must. Though they sound nothing like most of the above bands.




Ringworm are metalcore that's closer to hardcore than metal. Primitive ****.




Another ugly as **** transitional hardcore band.




Arkangel are probably my personal fav metalcore band. Brutal as ****, with some tasty thrash and death metal riffs.

You've got to have that brutality and raw, primal energy in your Metalcore, Batty I get that. I'm the opposite, or rather like the mix of both the brutality, and melodic aspect. If I get this kickass growl or scream through epic, expansive verses, and then there's a nice pre chorus before a chorus that's got some really killer clean, melodic vocals...I'm sold. But it's not always this basic, or boring approach like you point out. I think that melodic aspect can really compliment a largely aggressive song well. Trivium isn't the best example of that but you can get an idea what I mean.

I've never dabbled a whole lot in Unearths discography, but I've know of them since middle school, had friends that loved them. Killswitch was introduced to me when I was in middle school. I like Jesse over Howard, not only because Jesse is the original, but I think that even though Howard was more technically versed, Jesse always fit better, a bit more raw and it adds an element to the bands music that was missing after Jesse left the first time.

I'm familiar with all the other bands you posted up. I'm not huge on them but they're in my music library.

I do get what you mean about the melodic side of Metalcore. Because it does sort of have a small space for growth or not a lot different that can be done with it. Not a lot of variation, like you said.

****, you guys posted some nice bands! Thanks

How about some Everytime I Die, my favourite metalcore band.

Recent album they put out was pretty interesting, but I loved it and the album artwork they went with.

I need to listen to more of them. I'm only really familiar with The Big Dirty, which is a pretty awesome album. Got a swagger I'm not used to hearing on bands like this.

It's the southern rock aspect they have to their sound. Part of what makes them unique :3. It's hard to pick a favourite album but overall I think the Big Dirty might be it.
I'm not sure why but these guys are a lot more enjoyable to me than any other metalcore band I've listened to. They're just a lot of fun.

I love El Dorado on that album. I also really like Thirst. Moor is pretty cool too.

I've always been much more of a metal guy than a hardcore guy, so the bands that incorporate thrash and death metal generally go down the best with me. Hence my love of Arkangel. My other big find recently are Reprisal. These dudes clearly love them some Slayer.

Video is not available for me -_-.
I'm more of a hardcore guy :P.

Better?


Reprisal - War for Refoundation

It surprises me, Batty, you have a love for thrash and yet seem to not be the biggest fan of the recent Machine Head albums. They incorporate thrash as good or better than a lot of other Metal bands out there that aren't straight up thrash metal, and their live show is nothing short of amazing.

Check out machine head, OMGWTFBARBECUE.

No they really don't. They're alright, sometimes even awesome, but they're groove metal/metalcore with dashes of thrash. I tried listening to their new album, and it basically sounds like they've bought into their own hype and think they're artistes or something. Just overblown and silly.

Call it the far out or muddled up opinion of a long time fan.

I thought the new album was massive, flawed, but massive. I'd keep my opinion that it's their best yet if it wasn't for what you pointed out, because I feel that they kind of let their new found fame or popularity get to their heads.

I dig The Blackening, as it's their most solid release, but I'd probably have to go with Burn My Eyes -- at least for today, as I can go back and forth. The guitar tone is far more brutal than anything on their more recent material, the music far heavier, and Robb Flynn's vocals were just so ****ing gnarly. Their songwriting may have vastly improved since, but they've toned down a few more notches than I'd like.

The Blackening may be solid from start to finish, and Burn My Eyes might get repetitive halfway through, but can this...





...really **** with this...





Oh dear god, Robb Flynn had cornrows in the nineties. WTF?!

Depending on what particular aspect of Deftones you like, I'm guessing you'd approve of either 36 Crazyfists or Glassjaw for the riffs/vocals respectively.

I like the vocals and the instrumental of Deftones, i think they are a good band in general, they also have some good lyrics... And yes, i like Glassjaw, 36 Crazyfists, not so much.


Yeah, i already knew Machine Head, and i like them, i think their best album was The Blackening.

It's a matter of how you and I see things. Burn My Eyes is classic Machine Head, some say at their best. I love Burn My Eyes, it's the album anyone new to the band needs to start with. Then there's that period where the band flirted with nu-metal (and made it sound better to boot.) Those albums are ok, but they were stepping stones to the Machine Head we have today. I'd say that it would be easy to hear why Burn My Eyes can be the heaviest or most brutal Machine Head record, and I do agree on that. But the newer material I'd say is better because they're better musicians now. 'Course, that's just my view. But to actually clarify what I mean by that...

They're better musicians now, so the music they produce is more focused, tighter, or put together with a lot more understanding than with Burn My Eyes. But you're not looking at it like that Batty, I understand. Your view is more toward that Burn My Eyes, or The Blackening are just the best out of the albums the band has, more to your taste or preference.

By large, the band has not sold out, and they've stayed true to what makes Machine Head, Machine Head. I wouldn't even go so far as to say they market a more commercial sound. Because I'd be amazed if anything recent has ever been played on radio that often. The quality of the bands music is better than anything truly commercial.

As far as those two songs you posted go. The first is obviously not as heavy as the second. Guitar tone and the the drumming isn't as aggressive in the first, and the vocals in the second are maybe more...I can't find the word, but by large, the second song is the better of the two. I do get your point though.

And yeah...Rob used to have cornrows haha.

Nothing More. Not exactly similar to Deftones, but they have a bit of a different approach to the music they make, as does Deftones.

hmm... i dont know... i'm not liking the clean vocals...

Nothing wrong with that man. If you don't vibe with the band. You don't. I'll just keep suggesting and you'll pick out what you liked.

Try these guys. More of a djent oriented band, but the highlights of metalcore or metal are there.

First of all, I've already said that they've vastly improved as songwriters, but their original sound is so crushing that at least as far as song for song, their debut wins, even if I get bored about halfway through.

Secondly, I'd say Machine Head weren't so much sellouts, but Robb Flynn has been a trend chaser from day one. Look at his work with Vio-Lence, which is as unoriginal thrash as has ever existed, but it's also some ****ing goodass thrash. Early Machine Head was basically more aggressive Pantera, and now they're throwing in metalcore elements while toning down the abrasiveness.

Machine Head are great trend chasers, but in the end, they copy the work of others without actually innovating themselves.

Indeed you did.

Truthfully. I would kind of love them putting out a new album with that guitar tone from Burn My Eyes. They could do it without remaking that album. I get bored with any Machine Head album myself. But I don't mind it. They're a good band (I know you're not saying they suck haha, that'd be awfully blind of me if I was, because you've expressed you like the band and have a favorite album, in more or less words...)

Haha. Robb has always struck me as a guy that loves trends. Funny thing is how he plays it off like he don't. Vio-Lence I haven't heard a lot from, but have heard songs. Good thrash.

Get with it, dawg. Debut is the ****.