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CoNtrivedNiHilism 05-11-2015 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1588211)
Hideous songs/songwriting, and no!

False.

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1588232)
1) The melodramatics
2) The fantasy elements
3) Blood

Hilarious.

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1588234)
The sound.

Poop in your diaper?

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1588283)
It's all just noise.

False.

Not actually taking any of what I quoted seriously, as noted by my replies.

But honestly. Metal is not for everyone, and for various reasons. I have a boss at work that can't really listen to any kind of extremely heavy music, he's all about that classic rock/soft rock stuff (some good music, but my boss is such a wuss...) I showed him a few Machine Head songs, Amorphis songs, Death songs, and a few other bands. The look on his face was almost of pain and confusion. He told me that the music is just so harsh sounding and he can't really understand where the talent or creativity in it is. He also just mentioned the heavily distorted, down tuned guitars, said that he can't hear where the guitarists technique is or if the guitarists really even know what they're doing. All of that is well and good, and stuff. But it's also a bit funny to me. There are people that can't comprehend a genre of music like Metal, or any of it's variant genre's. Supposedly it's true that a lot of people prefer simple, or plain sounding music. So if half or more of the world is like that, then there's no reason any of those people would ever like Metal in the first place.

It probably is not likely that anyone here could have their mind changed about Metal that have never liked the genre. We could be as thorough as possible if we tried to seek out a band under the Metal umbrella that may suite someone's tastes, but even if we find a band that has none of the things that have been expressed unfavorable by someone who has never liked the music, that person may still turn their nose up to it haha.

I firmly believe, feel, whatever you'd call it, that Metal is a great genre of music. Those growled or screamed vocals so many don't like? I hear the emotion in it and it chargers my determination to persevere in my life. A lot of those songs I can listen to after a bad day, and by the end of the song I'm in the best mood. There are more than enough uplifting things about the genre. And it is a big reason why it's my favorite genre.

Puffnstuff 05-11-2015 06:33 AM

I love symphonic and gothic metal but cannot stand any music with screaming which demonstrates a lack of talent to me. With that said I actually love the song Bleed by Meshuggah.

CoNtrivedNiHilism 05-11-2015 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffnstuff (Post 1588297)
I love symphonic and gothic metal but cannot stand any music with screaming which demonstrates a lack of talent to me. With that said I actually love the song Bleed by Meshuggah.

I know it's your opinion. However...

A vocalist that screams all the time, growls, it is not because they lack the ability to sing clean vocals and know what they're doing. You'd be pretty surprised at how many of those vocalists that are always screaming through every song, have great clean singing voices as well; not a lack of talent, my friend, it is simply the preference of the vocalist.

The guy from Meshuggah is amazing at what he does. He knows how to use his voice well, and he changes octaves, key, tonality, whatever you want to call it, all of the time.

Do some more listening. You need to understand the genre better because I'm not so sure your opinion comes from any kind of clear understanding.

Chula Vista 05-11-2015 10:01 AM

Metal has evolved into so many very different sub-genres that it's impossible to make any general broad brush statements about "metal" itself.

Heavy metal subgenres - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Plankton 05-11-2015 10:12 AM

I'm gonna start calling the skin on my toes Toe Skin, and the skin on my dick Dick Skin. Foreskin is so 20th century dammit. On fleek.

The Batlord 05-11-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffnstuff (Post 1588297)
I love symphonic and gothic metal but cannot stand any music with screaming which demonstrates a lack of talent to me. With that said I actually love the song Bleed by Meshuggah.

Then go listen to Mozart cause all your music is probably "talentless" compared to him.

Puffnstuff 05-13-2015 05:21 AM

Funny thing is that I also like Soilwork when the song has clean vocals and I understand music quite well. Why must some of you always attack people who's opinions and preferences differ from your own? That says narrow minded to me.

Janszoon 05-13-2015 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffnstuff (Post 1588297)
I love symphonic and gothic metal but cannot stand any music with screaming which demonstrates a lack of talent to me. With that said I actually love the song Bleed by Meshuggah.

Why does music with screaming demonstrate a lack of talent to you?

And I agree, "Bleed" is a great track.

The Batlord 05-13-2015 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffnstuff (Post 1588948)
Funny thing is that I also like Soilwork when the song has clean vocals and I understand music quite well. Why must some of you always attack people who's opinions and preferences differ from your own? That says narrow minded to me.

It's fine if you don't like screaming. You don't have to like anything you don't want to. But saying that it "demonstrates a lack of talent" is ignorant. And like I said, compared to Mozart, Nightwish are talentless hacks, so...

Chula Vista 05-13-2015 09:31 AM

I don't mind screaming (early Geddy Lee anyone?) but do not enjoy cookie monster vocals at all. I don't like bands that put the pedal to the metal non-stop for entire albums. Dynamics are a good thing.

Other than that it's all good.


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