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The Batlord 07-19-2015 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616828)
And you all wonder where the good posters went and why they left.

Have a pretty good idea.

BTW Batlord that reply earlier made absolutely no sense.

Talk to me when you attain music knowledge.
Dude, this was in the exact same "article" (I'm assuming) that you posted to prove that Tool are prog rock.

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The band emerged with a*heavy metalsound on their first studio album,Undertow*(1993), and later became a dominant act in the*alternative metalmovement with the release of their second album,*Ænima, in 1996.
Your own "evidence" contradicted you. Did you even read it before you posted it?

Key 07-19-2015 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616826)
Not trolling but I know who the trolls are now.

Tool are progressive rock. Same genre as King Crimson.

Batlord, Ki, Frownland = trolls

Can't admit when they're wrong and have their lapdogs come rushing when they feel threatened.

Tool isn't metal hahahaha

If you think so you're ****ing stupid or saying it just to say it.
Lapdogs? I just woke up and saw that you replied so I replied to your post.

Exo 07-19-2015 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616826)
Not trolling but I know who the trolls are now.

Tool are progressive rock. Same genre as King Crimson.

Batlord, Ki, Frownland = trolls

Can't admit when they're wrong and have their lapdogs come rushing when they feel threatened.

Tool isn't metal hahahaha

If you think so you're ****ing stupid or saying it just to say it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616828)
And you all wonder where the good posters went and why they left.

Have a pretty good idea.

BTW Batlord that reply earlier made absolutely no sense.

Talk to me when you attain music knowledge.
If you can't have a discussion about the subject without turning into a pompous ass then pretty soon I'll make it so you aren't having conversations on here at all.

Key 07-19-2015 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1616836)
If you can't have a discussion about the subject without turning into a pompous ass then pretty soon I'll make it so you aren't having conversations on here at all.
If you're curious, he was doing the same thing in the Unpopular Music Opinions thread last night where he instead of trying to have a decent conversation, he proceeded to name calling and swearing combined with incoherent thoughts. I'd say that's enough to get rid of him. Then again, i'm biased since the insults were toward me.

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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616680)
He isn't bright. It's not an insult it's what I see from his projection. "Gilmour isn't popular" has nothing to do with the unpopular opinion I have about DSOTM.

I think it's overrated and overplayed and people like it just because other people like it.

Do you actually read what you type before posting it?
Also, i'm not crying to you, i'm just making sure you know that he's pretty much incapable of having a decent intellectual conversation without swearing / name calling.

Janszoon 07-19-2015 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616737)
Tool*is an American*rock*band from Los Angeles, California. Formed in 1990, the group's line-up includes drummer*Danny Carey, guitarist*Adam Jones, and vocalist*Maynard James Keenan. Since 1995,*Justin Chancellor*has been the band's bassist, replacing their original bassist*Paul D'Amour. Tool has won three*Grammy Awards, performed worldwide tours, and produced albums topping the charts in several countries.

The band emerged with a*heavy metalsound on their first studio album,Undertow*(1993), and later became a dominant act in the*alternative metalmovement with the release of their second album,*Ænima, in 1996. Their efforts to unify musical experimentation,visual arts, and a message of personal evolution continued with*Lateralus(2001) and the most recent album,10,000 Days*(2006), gaining the band critical acclaim and commercial success around the world.

Due to Tool's incorporation of visual arts and very long and complex releases, the band is generally described as a style-transcending act and part of*progressive rock,*psychedelic rock*and*art rock. The relationship between the band and today's*music industry*is ambivalent, at times marked by*censorship*and the band's insistence on privacy.


Nothing worse than proof to shut the trolls up.

They are progressive rock. There's a difference between rock and metal hence the thread ROCK/METAL.

Know your genres and now you know.

And knowing is half the battle.
Interestingly enough, the Wikipedia page you quoted this stuff from lists Tool's genres as:
  • Alternative metal
  • art rock
  • progressive metal
  • progressive rock

Neurotripsicks 07-19-2015 11:54 AM
What year is it?

Tool were never metal anyways.

That's like saying Slayer is alternative

Lol

The Batlord 07-19-2015 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1616840)
Also, i'm not crying to you, i'm just making sure you know that he's pretty much incapable of having a decent intellectual conversation.
ftfy

Exo 07-19-2015 11:55 AM
Noted. Thanks.

Unknown Soldier 07-19-2015 11:55 AM
Let's just call Tool progressive metal and hopefully that'll be the end of it ;)

Key 07-19-2015 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616843)
What year is it?

Tool were never metal anyways.

That's like saying Slayer is alternative

Lol
Are you reading anybody's posts in this thread? Your own evidence contradicts your thoughts.

Janszoon 07-19-2015 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616843)
What year is it?
What year do you think it is?

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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616843)
Tool were never metal anyways.
He's right guys, Tool are obviously R&B.

Key 07-19-2015 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1616851)

He's right guys, Tool are obviously R&B.
It's true. Maynard Keenan even said so.

Neurotripsicks 07-19-2015 01:56 PM
Progressive Rock.

Everyone knows a tomato is a fruit but still call it a vegetable.

"Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."

Key 07-19-2015 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616910)
Progressive Rock.

Everyone knows a tomato is a fruit but still call it a vegetable.

"Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
So basically we're supposed to believe your word is fact? Even though you haven't even touched on the fact that your own evidence contradicts your own thinking.

The Batlord 07-19-2015 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616910)
Progressive Rock.

Everyone knows a tomato is a fruit but still call it a vegetable.

"Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Tool is not a tomato.

Janszoon 07-19-2015 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1616921)
Tool is not a tomato.
If anything, Tool is a carrot.

Frownland 07-19-2015 02:14 PM
I think that Tool would be meat, since it has a lot of iron in it.

Neurotripsicks 07-19-2015 03:21 PM
Well I've made my point. I'm going to go listen to some country try now. I'm thinking Machine Head.

Frownland 07-19-2015 03:22 PM
Deep Purple isn't country.

Neurotripsicks 07-19-2015 03:23 PM
Is it baby humor hour

Frownland 07-19-2015 03:25 PM
Yes.

Neurotripsicks 07-19-2015 03:27 PM
I really like Disposition though.

A prime example of how Tool is very metal...as subject from being rock.

Unknown Soldier 07-19-2015 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616737)
The band emerged with a*heavy metalsound on their first studio album,Undertow*(1993), and later became a dominant act in the*alternative metalmovement with the release of their second album,*Ænima, in 1996.
w Tool is very metal...as subject from being rock.
If you don't think Tool are metal, why did you copy and paste the above post earlier?

Frownland 07-19-2015 03:35 PM
Early Tool is my favourite. It brings the metal.


Unknown Soldier 07-19-2015 03:37 PM
A certain person on here would mistake that for progressive rock.

CoNtrivedNiHilism 07-19-2015 03:40 PM
I was pretty entertained by those pages debating Tool and if they're metal or not. You lot know what I think of Tool so I'll won't join in on the topic. That bro Neurotripsicks may want to brush up on some things though before he debates a bands genre though...

Neurotripsicks 07-19-2015 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1616962)
Early Tool is my favourite. It brings the metal.



I'm referring to Tool today. The same goes for Metallica. Metallica isn't thrash anymore.

Opiate isn't even metal. That is Rock.

Really seriously starting to piss me off right now...and I have quite a tolerance for ignorance.

Unknown Soldier 07-19-2015 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1616964)
I was pretty entertained by those pages debating Tool and if they're metal or not. You lot know what I think of Tool so I'll won't join in on the topic. That bro Neurotripsicks may want to brush up on some things though before he debates a bands genre though...
I don't know what you think of them.

Key 07-19-2015 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616965)

Really seriously starting to piss me off right now...and I have quite a tolerance for ignorance.
Then you probably shouldn't have access to the internet if people disagreeing with your opinion pisses you off that much.

Unknown Soldier 07-19-2015 03:45 PM
But Tool haven't had a studio release since 2006 almost a decade ago, so that defeats Neuro's premise.

Key 07-19-2015 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1616969)
But Tool haven't had a studio release since 2006 almost a decade ago, so that defeats Neuro's premise. .
That's kind of what I was curious about too. He talks about Tool today as if they've been actively releasing music in the last couple years.

Neurotripsicks 07-19-2015 03:47 PM
They're recording right now and it's not metal. Maynard and Adam have even said that more than once they don't see Tool as a metal band. It's not my opinion it's the truth.

You going to argue with their own words go ahead.

Band is Prog Rock.

Deal with it.

Frownland 07-19-2015 03:48 PM
Who gives a **** about a single era? When I refer to the band it's generally as a whole. I could say that Frank Zappa was a modern classical composer and a doowop artist. They'd both be right. Same goes for Metallica and thrash. Pretty simple concept.

Key 07-19-2015 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616971)
They're recording right now and it's not metal. Maynard and Adam have even said that more than once they don't see Tool as a metal band. It's not my opinion it's the truth.
They've been "recording a new album" for the last 9 years.

CoNtrivedNiHilism 07-19-2015 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1616966)
I don't know what you think of them.
I've always thought Tool had been influenced heavily by Black Sabbath. I hear it even in their most recent album 10,000 Days. It's much more subtle now and not nearly what I'd call a dominate trait to their music, but you could pick it out if you cared to.

Tool is metal. And what this guy who has been ranting about how they're not, is just ignorant drivel. It's like he's got it in his head that a band has to sound a certain way or carry a certain level of intensity in their music to be a metal band. Metal isn't this boxed in genre anymore, it's grown, and it has it's obvious sub genre. It even did back when it was still a new sound tickling the ball hair of music listeners all over man. So I don't know where this Neurotripsicks gets their information about what metal is, but the guy is way off base here. And whether or not the members of Tool consider Tool a 'metal' band, does not matter to me. And it's a hilarious tactic for Neurotripsicks to use to attempt proving just how right he thinks he is on the matter. "Tool says they're not a Metal band so I'm right you guys!!!!" L...O...L...

Short of what I think of Tool is this. I love the band, put on an awesome live show when I saw them a few years back. They're not everyone's cup of tea. But that's fine by me.

The Batlord 07-19-2015 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Neurotripsicks (Post 1616965)
I'm referring to Tool today. The same goes for Metallica. Metallica isn't thrash anymore.

Opiate isn't even metal. That is Rock.

Really seriously starting to piss me off right now...and I have quite a tolerance for ignorance.
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Key 07-19-2015 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1616975)

Short of what I think of Tool is this. I love the band, put on an awesome live show when I saw them a few years back. They're not everyone's cup of tea. But that's fine by me.
I saw them on their 10,000 Days tour back in 07, and it's probably the best show i've ever seen.

Unknown Soldier 07-19-2015 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1616970)
That's kind of what I was curious about too. He talks about Tool today as if they've been actively releasing music in the last couple years.
That's what happens when posters pop pills before posting, they end up imagining all types of tosh.

CoNtrivedNiHilism 07-19-2015 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1616976)
Every f*cking time.

Neurotripsicks 07-19-2015 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1616973)
Who gives a **** about a single era? When I refer to the band it's generally as a whole. I could say that Frank Zappa was a modern classical composer and a doowop artist. They'd both be right. Same goes for Metallica and thrash. Pretty simple concept.


Undertow, Aenima, Lateralus and 1O,OOO Days are not metal.

If anyone thinks so they're misinformed.


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