Pearl Jam=Most overrated band
 

I don't know what you guys think, but to me, Pearl Jam is grossly overrated. Ten is a great album, Vs has a few good songs but overall is pretty weak, and Vitalogy is pretty solid, but after that, they have put out nothing but crap. No Code, Yield, Binaural, and all those late 90's and 2000's albums they did are pretty terrible in my mind. I just don't understand why a band that has only put out 2 good albums, 1 ok album, and 7 bad ones gets so much credit. They are by far my least favorite of the big 90's grunge bands. Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, and Nirvana all blow Pearl Jam out of the water!

Welcome back Urban.

At least they made something vaguely interesting with Ten, as opposed to STP.

Core, Purple, and Tiny Music are 3 of the best 90's rock albums! But we're entitled to our opinions.

Good heavens no.

Whether or not I see STP as anything other than a Pearl Jam ripoff, I'd still rather listen to Tiny Music over anything PJ ever did.

I've never gotten the whole STP is a PJ rip-off thing. Ten and Core are similar, but after that STP's sound progressed and varies from album to album. Pearl Jam has had the same sound their entire career. Purple, Tiny Music, No 4, and Shangri La Dee Da are nothing are nothing like Pearl Jam

I like STP, but when they first came out, they did sound like the Stone Gossard Pilots.

Vitology is honestly the only album by them I can sit through. Their sound has always been boring af to me.

It is indeed their best. After that, they just started to repeat themselves.

Pearl Jam have made some good music. STP have made no good music.

Janzsoon speaks the truth.

You guys are daft. Purple is a great album. Pearl Jam has made some incredible music but I still think their debut is their best work.

I don't want to be smart if it means liking STP.

The thing I never liked about Pearl Jam was that they spawned a generation of horrible knock off bands trying to sound like Eddie Vedder. (Creed, Nickleback, Silverchair, Bush X)

I never quite understood why, with Nirvana selling more albums than Pearl Jam, record companies chose to sign a gazillion Pearl Jam clones, instead of Nirvana ones.

Overnight bands like Skinny Puppy & Killing Joke were replaced by Pearl Jam and STP, that's when alternative became corporate rock

I agree their debut is their best album and it's far better than anything by STP.

Core is certainly too much of a ripoff to respect, though there are a few good tunes on it, but I'd say that Purple dropped enough of the dire Pearl Jam schtick to be entertaining as a more purely rock album, even if it was still largely Pearl Jam worship. Underneath the Pearl Jam theft, STP were pretty much just a rock 'n' roll band.

I think that's pretty much what they finally did with Tiny Music by stripping away the last Pearl Jam trappings. **** like this is far more fun than anything off of even Ten, even if STP were trying just a tad too hard to sound quirky.

I always thought Dean DeLeo's playing was much more Zeppelin-ish than Pearl Jam-ish.

This being a great example.

Pleased to see this thread even if it was started by a troll, less than 10 posts before starting this one. :laughing:

Both bands are favourites of mine and STP put out two great albums in Core and Purple before they went softer on the Beatlesque Tiny Music..... Also the first Velvet Revolver album is a big favourite of mine as well.

Pearl Jam on the other hand were even more impressive, I can remember going year after year and never understanding what people really saw in this band, but then after years of staring me in the face as it were their brilliance kind of hit me and have been a lover since. Their debut is one of the all time greats and VS, No Code and Binaural are right up there with it.

Who wouldn't die to be able to write a song as good as this?

Sheets of empty canvas, untouched sheets of clay
Were laid spread out before me as her body once did.
All five horizons revolved around her soul as the earth to the sun
Now the air I tasted and breathed has taken a turn

Ooh, and all I taught her was everything
Ooh, I know she gave me all that she wore

And now my bitter hands chafe beneath the clouds of what was everything.
Oh, the pictures have all been washed in black, tattooed everything...

I take a walk outside, I'm surrounded by some kids at play
I can feel their laughter, so why do I sear?
Oh, and twisted thoughts that spin round my head, I'm spinning, oh,
I'm spinning, how quick the sun can drop away

And now my bitter hands cradle broken glass of what was everything
All the pictures have all been washed in black, tattooed everything...

All the love gone bad turned my world to black
Tattooed all I see, all that I am, all I'll be...

I know someday you'll have a beautiful life,
I know you'll be a star in somebody else's sky,
But why, why, why can't it be, can't it be mine?

A lot of people love taking digs at Vedder's singing but it ain't easy to do what he was doing in his prime.

Nice lyrics but I've made several albums that Vedder couldn't touch.

All great albums:
Ten (1991)
Vs. (1993)
Vitalogy (1994)
No Code (1996) - Way underrated Gem
Yield (1998)
Binaural (2000)


Not so great although still a few good songs on each:

Pearl Jam (2006)
Riot Act (2002)
Backspacer (2009)
Lightning Bolt (2013)

I would take that track record any day.

STP had 2 good albums with Purple being by far the best. Frownland, have you honestly ever listened to that with an open mind? They use some very unique chord voicings and the basslines are creative and complex.

My favorite song by them:

^I grew up listening to them through my parents and even as a kid (ie before I was a close minded pretentious fellow :D) I found them to be too boring to listen to.

I can definitely see that. I don't pull them out much to be honest. But I have played songs (like the one I posted) in bands and they were a bitch to figure out. Musically they are very interesting. Not your standard heavy metal root/5th chords. I'm less enthused with them lyrically and vocally.

Weiland is definitely my biggest gripe with the group. He's the Anthony Keidis to their RHCP I guess.

Care to explain why I am a troll? I'm brand new to this forum and this topic just happened to be on my mind the day I joined. Don't jump to conclusions buddy

Righto chum.

Your parents listened to them? Good god that make me feel old.

Anyhow I think boring sums up the STP pretty well, the only people I know who like them are chronic potheads.

Like many bands, when they break into the mass market arena, the new sound and epic album comes and then the band just fads away or continues in some form just reliving the glory days with no new chart topping hits.

this thread is a hipster-off. Neither band was that bad.

STP was that bad.

Interstate Love Song was easily one of the best grunge songs to be made. The only two I can think that might be on the same level are Smells Like Teen Spirit and Fell on Black Days.

Somebody else who recognizes that song's supreme awesometasticness! Throw in Tad's "Jinx", and like, half of Jar of Flies (or maybe just "Rotten Apple" and "No Excuses"), and we're in business.

Hell, most of "Inhaler" is amazing.

While I agree that good grunge songs were few and far between, "Interstate Love Song" wasn't one of them.

The salt is immeasurable! Do you have some examples of good ones?