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innerspaceboy 09-26-2015 11:11 PM

I really think Post-Punk / Minimal Wave deserves acknowledgement.

Important examples might include:
Any of the 26 albums by Cabaret Voltaire, particularly work from '79-'82
The Chameleons
Einstürzende Neubauten
Fad Gadget
Human League's 1979 Reproduction LP
Muslimgauze (though across the span of their 241 albums, they explore Tribal industrial, dark ambient techno and dub as well)
The Residents
Solid Space
Suicide s/t
Television's Marquee Moon
The Flying Lizards
The Normal's T.V.O.D / Warm Leatherette single (a classic)
Wall of Voodoo's Dark Continent
and much of Throbbing Gristle's 40-odd album catalog
For simplicity's sake the 10 most critical recordings of the subgenre are
01 Suicide - Suicide (1977)
02 Solid Space - Space Museum [cassette] (1982)
03 The Residents - Commercial Album (1980)
04 Monoton - Monotonprodukt 07 (1982)
05 Oppenheimer Analysis - New Mexico (1982)
06 Fad Gadget - Fireside Favourites (1980)
07 Wall of Voodoo - Dark Continent (1981)
08 November Növelet - Magic (2007)
09 The Human League - Reproduction (1979)
10 Ensemble Pittoresque - For This Is Past (1983)
In case anyone is considering another neglected category, RYM's rock database is divided into the following primary subgenres:
Acoustic Rock
Alternative Rock
Andean Rock
AOR (No. Just... no.)
Art Rock
Blues Rock
British Rhythm & Blues
Christian Rock
Comedy Rock
Country Rock
Dark Cabaret
Deutschrock
Emo
Experimental Rock
Folk Rock
Funk Rock
Garage Rock
Glam Rock
Hard Rock
Heartland Rock
Industrial Rock
Jam Band
Jazz-Rock (already ruled out)
Latin Rock
Metal (though many would contest this.)
Mod
Neue Deutsche Welle
New Wave
Noise Rock
Pop Rock
Post-Punk
Post-Rock
Progressive Rock
Proto-Punk
Psychedelic Rock
Pub Rock
Punk Rock
Rock & Roll
Rock Opera
Roots Rock
Southern Rock
Sufi Rock
Surf Rock
Symphonic Rock
West Coast Rock
Zamrock
and Zolo

Frownland 09-27-2015 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1637915)
I'd pick another album. Possibly The Caution Appears.
AM is kinda tame.

How about Withdrawe, This Sable Disclosure Ere Devot'd?

grindy 09-27-2015 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1637959)
How about Withdrawe, This Sable Disclosure Ere Devot'd?

Not their best, but still cooler than AM.
Not gonna be nitpicky in this thread though, I'm sure we all have tons of albums and genres here that we disagree on or feel they should be included.

TechnicLePanther 09-27-2015 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 1637922)
I really think Post-Punk / Minimal Wave deserves acknowledgement.

Important examples might include:
01 Suicide - Suicide (1977)
02 Solid Space - Space Museum [cassette] (1982)
03 The Residents - Commercial Album (1980)
04 Monoton - Monotonprodukt 07 (1982)
05 Oppenheimer Analysis - New Mexico (1982)
06 Fad Gadget - Fireside Favourites (1980)
07 Wall of Voodoo - Dark Continent (1981)
08 November Növelet - Magic (2007)
09 The Human League - Reproduction (1979)
10 Ensemble Pittoresque - For This Is Past (1983)

Which one of these can we replace with Cabaret Voltaire's The Voice of America?

EDIT- Actually, I'm going to make a synth-punk list, put Suicide on that, and replace them with Cabaret Voltaire.

TechnicLePanther 09-27-2015 07:21 AM

Question: Should we do synthpop? Yea or Nay?

It's not quite rock, but it has considerable influences from rock music. For me, the more the merrier. Yea.

innerspaceboy 09-27-2015 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther (Post 1637965)
Question: Should we do synthpop? Yea or Nay?

It's not quite rock, but it has considerable influences from rock music. For me, the more the merrier. Yea.

We can certainly do synth-pop provided that every song is "Doot Doot".

Oriphiel 09-27-2015 01:43 PM

I vote yea. Synthpop is sexy, though it might overlap with New Wave a bit.

The Batlord 09-27-2015 01:52 PM

Since synthpop evolved from post-punk, then definitely. It's far more derived from rock than actual pop.

Oriphiel 09-27-2015 04:40 PM

Hey TechnicLePanther, I noticed that the Psychobilly list is pretty slim. Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em by Reverend Horton Heat is a classic, if you need some more albums.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1638030)
Since synthpop evolved from post-punk, then definitely. It's far more derived from rock than actual pop.

Synthpop evolved predominantly from New Wave, Hi-NRG, and experimental music. Post Punk did contribute it's quirky darkness to the scene, but saying that the whole genre of Synthpop evolved from it is shortsighted. Might seem like I'm nitpicking, but if you start listening to Synthpop expecting it to be influenced mainly by Post Punk, you'll certainly find a few gems here and there, but you might be disappointed by the majority of what you hear. Taking a look at most lists of classic Synthpop albums, you'll see them dominated by bands like Berlin (a New Wave band), Kraftwerk (experimental/electronic), Michael Jackson (with his synth-y Disco work), and so on. I remember sending you a bunch of Synthpop and Hi-NRG songs awhile back, and you must have not liked them, because you didn't even bother to respond. :laughing:

But yeah, it was still rock-oriented, in the sense that most Synthpop bands kept the classic rock band structure.

The Batlord 09-27-2015 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1638068)
I remember sending you a bunch of Synthpop and Hi-NRG songs awhile back, and you must have not liked them, because you didn't even bother to respond. :laughing:.

I was gonna listen to them, but I got lazy. I still have that post saved in my PMs though.


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