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Two Spirit 12-31-2015 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IvanMC (Post 1665642)
Love these lads, their music is beyond amazing. But this reunion should've taken place long ago... something smells money-orientated here...

Money is the only reason they're doing it. There's no way Slash and Axl are magically on good terms again, not with the history they have together. The money this time around just happens to be good enough for them to put aside their differences for 25 shows. Their bank accounts will get padded nicely when it's all over, and they'll go back to hating each other again.

Frownland 12-31-2015 06:27 PM

I don't think you really need magic to get back on good terms with people.

The Batlord 12-31-2015 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1665767)
I don't think you really need magic to get back on good terms with people.

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Chula Vista 12-31-2015 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Spirit (Post 1665766)
Money is the only reason they're doing it. There's no way Slash and Axl are magically on good terms again, not with the history they have together. The money this time around just happens to be good enough for them to put aside their differences for 25 shows. Their bank accounts will get padded nicely when it's all over, and they'll go back to hating each other again.

For the entire tour it'll be separate flights, separate limos, separate hotels, separate dressing rooms, and they'll probably walk on and off stage from opposite ends.

The Batlord 12-31-2015 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1665781)
For the entire tour it'll be separate flights, separate limos, separate hotels, separate dressing rooms, and they'll probably walk on and off stage from opposite ends.

So, like a Motley Crue show? Sweet. And what world-class band shares a dressing room?

Basil C. Thurston III 12-31-2015 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IvanMC (Post 1665642)
Love these lads, their music is beyond amazing. But this reunion should've taken place long ago... something smells money-orientated here... unless they make a new -and indeed good- album. Anyway, I'm all for the idea of a dual-drummer set-up. It would be well-served to Adler. And I'd like Bumblefoot to stay. He's a sublime musician. But then, of course, nothing of this will ever happen, and I'll end up frittering away all my little money on a Guns N' Roses ticket.

Bumblefoot began to have substance control issues while on the never-ending CD tour, and he has walked away from GNR to save his life. Don't think he'll be back, he sounded pretty resigned to that in an interview with Eddie Trunk earlier this year.
And of course it's about the money- every tour is about the money- this is the only way these guys make coin in the age of digital ripoffs. The band doesn't set the price of tickets, only the gig- the promoters are the ones who set ticket levels, so blame them, not Axl & Co. Rumor is they are asking for a million per show at the stadium level. So say they play the Cotton Bowl in Dallas, seating capacity 92,000 as is, add in another three thousand infield seats at minimum. So if you sold 95000 tickets at $10 a pop, that pays the band. Throw in all the costs to produce and promote the show, charge $30 a ticket, you still come out ahead. And I'm willing to bet they sell a corporate sponsorship to eat the costs of the production, like the Stones do..so keep that in mind when marveling at the ticket prices- it's not always the band behind the massive mark-up....I don't know if I would pay those prices. Perhaps if there was a pretty special double bill or opening act. But I saw GNR during their heyday, and they were nothing special live, IMO, pretty sloppy sounding back then....and Axl's voice has had 25 years to age, I saw the new GNR version 2 years ago and it was rough in spots to my ears...

Two Spirit 01-01-2016 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Basil C. Thurston III (Post 1665816)
Bumblefoot began to have substance control issues while on the never-ending CD tour, and he has walked away from GNR to save his life. Don't think he'll be back, he sounded pretty resigned to that in an interview with Eddie Trunk earlier this year.
And of course it's about the money- every tour is about the money- this is the only way these guys make coin in the age of digital ripoffs. The band doesn't set the price of tickets, only the gig- the promoters are the ones who set ticket levels, so blame them, not Axl & Co. Rumor is they are asking for a million per show at the stadium level. So say they play the Cotton Bowl in Dallas, seating capacity 92,000 as is, add in another three thousand infield seats at minimum. So if you sold 95000 tickets at $10 a pop, that pays the band. Throw in all the costs to produce and promote the show, charge $30 a ticket, you still come out ahead. And I'm willing to bet they sell a corporate sponsorship to eat the costs of the production, like the Stones do..so keep that in mind when marveling at the ticket prices- it's not always the band behind the massive mark-up....I don't know if I would pay those prices. Perhaps if there was a pretty special double bill or opening act. But I saw GNR during their heyday, and they were nothing special live, IMO, pretty sloppy sounding back then....and Axl's voice has had 25 years to age, I saw the new GNR version 2 years ago and it was rough in spots to my ears...

The problem is that they're charging way above a simple $50-$60 ticket, which would easily turn a profit a couple times over with that many seats. I know veteran acts charge out the ass all the time, but $250 and up is just inexcusable, especially for a band that only has one great album, a semi-decent double album, a covers album that nobody asked for, and a "comeback" record that took fifteen years to record.

Any other band would have faded in popularity with such little material and band infighting that these guys have, and yet people are still willing to throw hundreds of their hard-earned money at these guys who haven't recorded anything together in over twenty years. How they're still relevant in any sense is mind boggling.

Appetite was a damn fine record and seeing most of that lineup again would be pretty cool, but too much time has passed for me for it to be worth it, not to mention the ridiculous ticket prices.

DwnWthVwls 01-01-2016 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1665786)
So, like a Motley Crue show? Sweet. And what world-class band shares a dressing room?

Queen, Manowar, etc...

IvanMC 01-01-2016 11:42 AM

Basil, Two Spirit, I think you're totally right. I had no idea about Boomblefoot walking away from GNR or anything... I kind of decided to lay off music magazines, bands news, etc, long ago. That piece of news did surprise me, I must admit. I was kind of raving, anyway, because I think Ron Thal is an outstanding musician: but if there's going to be a reunion, he has no place indeed, although he was Axl's mate for nearly 10 years.
I saw GNR in 1992; those days were indeed their heyday, and I think they were special live: a luxurious band backing them up, interesting solos by Sorum and Slash, jams that blew me away... I mean, it looked more like a professional performance than to a handsome guy singing ballads. I think they did their very best. And I was there for their very last concert in 1993 as well, which wasn't as good as the one in 1992.
Cheers and have a great 2016!
:beer:

Chula Vista 01-01-2016 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1665876)
Queen.

I have a documentary from a show they did in 1986. They shared a dressing room, or at least an area where they'd hang out and warm up together prior to going on stage. Those guys were really close.


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