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JGuy Grungeman 01-27-2016 02:15 PM

The Original Heavy Metal Pioneers
 
Let's talk about the original hard rock groups that played a big role on the influence of heavy metal. You know, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, Uriah Heep, Scorpions, etc. The earliest of the early. Proto-metal. The Pioneers. Let's talk about how it went on to influence all metal. That's what this whole thread is for.

So, I'll start a topic.who do you say is the first band to really start the sound? I'd say Led Zeppelin for their 1969 albums I & II. And if Immigrant SOng from III ain't heavy metal...

Frownland 01-27-2016 02:20 PM

Not hard rock but stuff if it weren't for stuff like this, metal wouldn't have come about.



Another good answer would be The Stooges' Funhouse for popularizing that brand of chaos.

JGuy Grungeman 01-27-2016 02:25 PM

Possibly. I don't see the majority of it popularizing "heavy metal," but maybe other kinds of metal? I can see more orchestral and dramatic kinds.

Mondo Bungle 01-27-2016 02:29 PM

I'm lowkey super into ptoto-metal.

Some relatively unknown and underrated stuff



Not that unknown but a great album



If you'd call them proto metal, although they're right there on the cusp, Deep Purple is the best. Just a rocking and shredding album here


JGuy Grungeman 01-27-2016 03:10 PM

Proto-metal was intended to be a joke, really.

Chula Vista 01-27-2016 03:18 PM

All great stuff. Cream and Hendrix kinda set the table. LZ1 was truly the first heavy metal album IMO. I mean, come on? This is January of 1969.

That's 47 ****ing years ago!


Mondo Bungle 01-27-2016 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1674371)
Proto-metal was intended to be a joke, really.

so all these bands are just parodies playing nonsense huh

JGuy Grungeman 01-27-2016 03:53 PM

... The joke was that proto-metal isn't a common term, let alone enough to qualify as a popular descriptor like "proto-punk."

Mondo Bungle 01-27-2016 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1674398)
... The joke was that proto-metal isn't a common term,

You don't think so? Man and here I am seeing it all over the place for years, describing all these bands.

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/russto...t_proto_metal/
20 Greatest Proto-Metal Hard Rock Pioneers - VH1
Top 10 Proto-Metal Albums | AUX.TV
Proto-Metal: 5 Bands That Shaped The Genre - My Freakin Ears!
PROTO-METAL, a metal music subgenre

Only term I ever used.

http://i.imgur.com/TY4vyEp.png

JGuy Grungeman 01-27-2016 04:26 PM

Weird, I'm the first person I've ever known who's used it. I guess I'm wrong.

SatoshiNak 02-02-2016 11:34 AM

I remember hearing this as a kid on early MTV and thinking it was pretty heavy for 1968. I remember a few years later tripping out when I saw they had been signed and released an album under Megaforce


Unknown Soldier 02-03-2016 05:14 AM

Proto-metal is a very old and common term, it's just a way of conveniently grouping together a whole load of pioneer and early bands.

Nearly all these bands that are being mentioned, I covered in the first dozen or so pages of my main journal, which seems like years ago now.

pulbub 02-03-2016 08:34 AM

Definitely "The Stooges" and "In Rock". Deep Purple had on of the most pissed off sound I've ever heard.

JGuy Grungeman 02-03-2016 10:13 AM

Actually, I take my original statement back. I think heavy psych had influence on metal. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida by Iron Butterfly was a 68 album, so I'd say tey were setting the ground work for the sound before Zeppelin.

The Batlord 02-03-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1676417)
Proto-metal is a very old and common term, it's just a way of conveniently grouping together a whole load of pioneer and early bands.

Nearly all these bands that are being mentioned, I covered in the first dozen or so pages of my main journal, which seems like years ago now.

Dude, you started that journal in September of 2012. It has been years.

Unknown Soldier 02-03-2016 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1676495)
Actually, I take my original statement back. I think heavy psych had influence on metal. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida by Iron Butterfly was a 68 album, so I'd say tey were setting the ground work for the sound before Zeppelin.

After blues rock, psychedelic rock is the second biggest influence on metal.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1676520)
Dude, you started that journal in September of 2012. It has been years.

How time flies.

Chula Vista 02-03-2016 02:22 PM

How about The Yardbirds?


Mondo Bungle 02-03-2016 03:03 PM



Gotta enjoy this stoner metal from 1973



JGuy Grungeman 02-03-2016 09:47 PM

Same here.

Paul Smeenus 02-03-2016 11:00 PM

How about something that actually *is* early metal




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