I also respectfully disagree with all this.

Not necessarily the most insane but Fantômas is some of the best avant-garde metal music ever.



And White Suns is uber intense


Anything with Yamatsuka Eye in it fits the bill. Naked City is my favourite.

I was going just off grinding things but otherwise there's still more chaos

It's all about what you want to get out of your music. I usually want something memorable, interesting, emotively resonant, and occasionally relentlessly, drivingly aggressive. The stop/start, purposefully dissonant nature of these songs just don't do it for me. A guy screaming poems of disaffection over shrill noise and syncopated whirring aren't my idea of music.

Posters here obviously have different criteria. Your taste is not superior because it encompasses "everything".

I get all of those things out of music like grindcore and powerviolence. Sometimes it's just the right thing for the mood I'm in.

Out of curiosity, what kinds of loud music do you like? Just trying to understand where you're coming from.

Grindcore is fun and I enjoy a lot of it (stuff like Gadget, Nasum, some Discordance Axis, Cyness).

Don't get Yacopsae, everything Frownland has posted, half of Mondo's contributions here. No problem with people enjoying it. Just doesn't do it for me. If you hear memorable riffs awesome, if you enjoy being awash in naked noise and rage fantastic. I take issue with being called a **** because I don't fellate bands that are purposefully off-putting in sound or aesthetic.

Metal currently on my phone: The Axis of Perdition, Buried at Sea, Carcariass, Dodecahedron, Eikenskaden, Emperor, Gorguts, Hacksaw to the Throat, Kaamos, Krallic, Martyr, Melechesh, Negura Bunget, Nocturnus, Orphaned Land, Revelation of Doom, Sword, Thralldom, Vale of Pnath, Woods of Ypres, and Yyrkoon.

Death, black, doom. I think my "cred" is solid - one does not need to fawn over every sub-genre.

(pretty sure he was joking)

That's intentionally offputting as hell though, innit?

I get where you're coming from though, and you put it well. I'll just say that purposeful dissonance is almost always a lot better than the accidental.

It's Erosion of Sanity and Considered Dead haha - decidedly more classic death metal. I've tried for years and years to truly embrace Obscura. I've settled into seeing the appeal but not turning to it myself.

And I can agree with that last sentence. It certainly has it's place. I'm the proud owner of Deathspell Omega's Fas. It's a regular part of long car trips (especially at night).

I'm just saying Today is the Day has a very expansive sound loaded with outrageously catchy and/or powerful material. Like Willpower is totally not some kinda pointless blast fest. Some melodies on there hit hard. Sounds like Swervedriver playing extreme metal.

Some violently inaccessible stuff in there