Let's Discuss Linkin Park!

GlamrockSam · 07-22-2017, 03:32 AM

'Hybrid Theory' was the first album I ever bought. 2 for £10 with Soulfly's 'Back to The Primitive' from Virgin Megastore.

I must have been about 15. I absolutely loved it, listened to it non-stop. Loved the videos, their cool hair, and all the crazy voice effects they had

In hindsight, the vocals are very negative, and it's no surprise that Chester had issues... He had to perpetually sing about how his life is awful or about how damaged he is psychologically, or scream emotionally abusive lyrics such as "shut up when I'm talking to you" as part of his 9-5 job.

Perversely, he didn't change his tune, 15 years after becoming famous and presumably rich after the release of Hybrid Theory and he was still talking about being psychologically damaged.

If you haven't found a solution to your problems after 15 years, then you haven't been trying hard enough or worse, you really ARE damaged.

I remember reading that he was addicted to heroin at one point, i think it was in Kerrang! or Metal Hammer. Another glamorisation of victim mentality.
If Chester believed that you cannot be helped, you won't find help. If Chester's core identity was "I am a damaged person who will never be fixed", reinforced by the fact that he is financially rewarded for the lyrics he sings, the ego is likely to defend it.

The video to Papercut is the most late 90's "Let's make a Tool video" video ever!!!

**Janszoon** · 07-22-2017, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I used Linkin Park and Nu Metal in general to introduce two types of friend groups I had to genres they wouldn't give a chance. Either they were in the group where they only listened to rock and thought "rap was crap" or they only listened to rap and thought rock was just "noise". Both groups bonded over their love for LP though and led them to giving the genre that they ****ted on for so long a chance.

You had friends who thought Chuck Berry was just noise?

**Janszoon** · 07-22-2017, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

these albums remind me of times when i lived in states when they were released.

You no longer live in a state?

Tristan_Geoff · 07-22-2017, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

i do, the newest album is the one thats been released since ive lived here.

When and where did you live in NC?

djchameleon · 07-22-2017, 10:24 AM

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You had friends who thought Chuck Berry was just noise?

They didn't know about Chuck. They equated metal to all rock music basically.

Did you know about Chuck Berry as a teenager?

The Batlord · 07-22-2017, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

dysfunction of all these 90s rockstars is a reflection of how vulgar the teen pop adaption of alternative is/was major labels are ****ing vultures, money and the rockstar fantasy is a reflection of the worst parts of our culture

Guy needed a shrink and a chance to grow up not millions of dollars and a celebration of permanent adolescence

Cause alternative artists in general are known for their mental stability.

**Janszoon** · 07-22-2017, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

They didn't know about Chuck. They equated metal to all rock music basically.

That's weird. At this point metal isn't even really rock subgenre anymore.

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Did you know about Chuck Berry as a teenager?

Of course. He's an extremely famous musician. I knew about him even as a little kid.

djchameleon · 07-22-2017, 10:47 AM

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That's weird. At this point metal isn't even really rock subgenre anymore.

It isn't all that weird. There were metalheads in school still listening to Trash and Death metal with their Maiden and Slayer shirts.

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Of course. He's an extremely famous musician. I knew about him even as a little kid.

Of course, so cultured musically as a kid.

**Janszoon** · 07-22-2017, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

It isn't all that weird. There were metalheads in school still listening to Trash and Death metal with their Maiden and Slayer shirts.

I'd say the emergence of thrash, death, and black metal is when metal began to become its own genre, separate from rock.

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Of course, so cultured musically as a kid.

Cultured? lol. Little kids generally know the names of well known artists, it's really not weird. I knew who Elvis was too—crazy!

The Batlord · 07-22-2017, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

It isn't all that weird. There were metalheads in school still listening to Trash and Death metal with their Maiden and Slayer shirts.

Of course, so cultured musically as a kid.

07-22-2017, 03:32 AM	#101 (permalink)
GlamrockSam Groupie Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 6	'Hybrid Theory' was the first album I ever bought. 2 for £10 with Soulfly's 'Back to The Primitive' from Virgin Megastore. I must have been about 15. I absolutely loved it, listened to it non-stop. Loved the videos, their cool hair, and all the crazy voice effects they had In hindsight, the vocals are very negative, and it's no surprise that Chester had issues... He had to perpetually sing about how his life is awful or about how damaged he is psychologically, or scream emotionally abusive lyrics such as "shut up when I'm talking to you" as part of his 9-5 job. Perversely, he didn't change his tune, 15 years after becoming famous and presumably rich after the release of Hybrid Theory and he was still talking about being psychologically damaged. If you haven't found a solution to your problems after 15 years, then you haven't been trying hard enough or worse, you really ARE damaged. I remember reading that he was addicted to heroin at one point, i think it was in Kerrang! or Metal Hammer. Another glamorisation of victim mentality. If Chester believed that you cannot be helped, you won't find help. If Chester's core identity was "I am a damaged person who will never be fixed", reinforced by the fact that he is financially rewarded for the lyrics he sings, the ego is likely to defend it. The video to Papercut is the most late 90's "Let's make a Tool video" video ever!!!