The Big Four
 

Do you think that Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax should be replaced with Overkill, Exodus and Testament?

This is a tired topic. Basing it on popularity is at least a somewhat objective measurement. Otherwise, nobody would ever agree on what bands to include.

overkill sues napster

Overkill, Exodus and Testament are only slightly less popular than Megadeth or Anthrax.

I think it depends who you're talking to.

When I was in middle school, everybody knew who Anthrax, Megadeth, and even Voivod were because they were all on Guitar Hero II. There were daily discussions about how hard "Hangar 18" was to play on expert mode. It was considered like a right of passage to play "Hangar 18" on expert mode among my friends. "Hangar 18 expert mode" is a meme I still see sometimes. This was 13-14 year-olds first experience with metal that wasn't "Enter Sandman".

Among the older generation, maybe, but among my generation, hell no.

Overkill have sold more than 16 million albums ( excluding the US ).

I think $$$ is a better indication of popularity than sales.

If we're talking modern day popularity, at least in metal circles, then yeah I'd say those three could replace the other three.

there's lotsa good bands

Hell no! Exodus (mostly) sucks and Testament's only good album is their newest album. Overkill is good, but the only big four band they're better than (strongest material vs strongest material), is Anthrax. Anthrax barely has strong material.

I love Overkill's 80's and 90's albums, but I'd still put at least Megadeth and Metallica over them.

EDIT: If you really mean just how big they are in terms of fans, show attendance, sales... The factors that defined the big four to begin with, then I don't know. I don't have the numbers, but my insticts tell me Anthrax are has-beens compared to most of these other bands.

Anthrax probably filled more stadiums than any of the bands mentioned in this thread in the 80s.

But nobody ever cared after The Sound of White Noise. Although We've Come for You All is an underrated alt metal quasi-classic that's better than anything else they ever did with John Bush. The best thing the singer ever did by a good ways, and I like Armored Saint. I'd classify this as the last gasp of Bush-era Anthrax where they were legit trying their ass off to make things work and made an actual good go of it.

No wonder they fired Bush after this and went back to Joey Belladonna, cause even if they could have continued making good albums like this they had every reason to believe no one would ever care so why not go for broke and bring back the guy from the albums people actually like.

Better than I thought it would be, even if some of it sounds like Linkin Park and/or Nickelback, but still bad.

As far as I'm concerned it sounds like the best album you could ever expect to hear on the radio within any time in the last twenty years, and some of this **** is legit fire. It's not something I come back to except for nostalgia since it was the current Anthrax album when I was discovering metal, but it somehow was the best Big Four album at the time (this, St. Anger, God Hates us All, and The World Needs a Hero), and it's still pretty fun.








I like that the album title is "We've Come for You All" but the cover screams "Please Save Us". Kind of says everything.

I suppose it is.

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all the big four were coming out of their darkest period.

Yes, but at least one band actually came out with one good album without making a phony "back to their roots album". Slayer were the only band to do anything of worth from that period and on, so as far as I'm concerned as far as post-00 Big Four goes, it's basically Christ Illusion and We've Come for You All and then everything else can go **** itself. So two albums by all four bands were truly worth anything. And honestly I could take one over the other. One is a durn good thrash album while the other is a durn good song-oriented alt metal album, and depending on the day I could take WCFYA over Christ Illusion. It's not brilliant, but it's still fun.

Um, that would only be the Big Three. :bonkhead:

Nah since Metallica are clearly not being replaced. Duh.

I thought that World Painted Blood had some cool songs.

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I never noticed how they all followed the same pattern at the same time (other than Anthrax)

I mean it did, but god damn was it boring as an album. And I'm giving it some leeway cause it didn't... like... I mean I'm sure it had some good **** that I'm forgetting. But it was a giant step down from Christ Illusion, which was a legitimately good record. At least I can easily point to We've Come for You All and Christ Illusion with some damn good songs without having to go back and figure out what was **** and what wasn't.

Pretty sure it was all down to the thrash revival. One of the most boring musical events of all time. Hey, thrash was a thing, remember? You don't? Well here's a boring rundown of everything that was the least interesting. And a few ****ty albums by bands who did better in the 80s to boot. And hey Exodus still rule so let's pretend we had anything to do with that even though they were kicking ass with that live album in 1997!

Sound of White Noise is hella choice

It's really not. I mean it's not the worst album ever, but man is it not choice. Imma go listen to it again to make sure you're full of **** though.

are you trying to tell me that other people don't all share the exact same thoughts on things as I do

I'm sorry I thought we were on Music Banter where people weren't whiny ****s when other people disagreed with them about music.

when did I whine

must've been sub textual

The songs on that album that I love I love especially

When you bitched about people not having the thoughts that you did. But that's still a boring album.

lol gimme a break

Man you whine when people don't like The Sound of White Noise as they shouldn't. Just get on We've Come for You All's dick like the good headed people.

from what I remember the production was really lame sounding

It's better than the other John Bush albums excluding Sound cuz those are also kinda lame but I just like that album a lot

Yeah the production really isn't much to write home about, but it lets itself be way more fun than White Noise, and Anthrax should always be about fun.

I like most tracks on White Noise but there's too much of it so it suffers similar setbacks to the Persistence of Time.

too persistent

what's with all these thrash bands and their "the more boring the music, the longer it should be" way of going about things

or maybe it's the other way around

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Mondo's speaking truth.

Is this the big 4 metal bands?
I'd argue those to be AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Metallica and Guns N' Roses (currently).

Circa 1973

Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, The Who

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Thrash, people.

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