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OccultHawk 03-17-2018 02:51 PM

Wasn’t it Heart Breaker?

The Batlord 03-17-2018 04:01 PM

I have an uncle who's a hopeless guitar nerd I have little desire to talk music with who desperately wanted a guitar in the 80s, so my grandmother, with the utmost pride, got him a ukelele. He then went on to enter into a radio contest by playing "Eruption" on a ukelele. I believe he got second place.

Justthefacts 03-17-2018 05:09 PM

For some reason I thought Blizzard Of Oz was an ICP spin off record. But apparently not. I guess I won't completely dismiss it now and give it a listen.

Cuthbert 03-17-2018 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1934038)
For some reason I thought Blizzard Of Oz was an ICP spin off record. But apparently not. I guess I won't completely dismiss it now and give it a listen.

It's very good tbh.

NMT is meant to be the best Ozzy Osbourne album, need to get it.

Chula Vista 03-17-2018 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1934008)
Wasn’t it Heart Breaker?

Yup. That pull off **** during the solo.

Neapolitan 03-17-2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1933726)
Blizzard because of Randy Rhoads and my dislike of Dio. I think I've said on here before that Randy Rhoads is like the guitarist equivalent of Superbad: phenomenal on their own but they sparked a massive wave of unsuccessful imitators that made a lot of the work in that genre unbearably bad.

If you're thinking of what I think you're thinking then: No, that is not the fault of Randy Rhoads, that is the fault of MTV.

OccultHawk 03-17-2018 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1934081)
If you're thinking of what I think you're thinking then: No, that is not the fault of Randy Rhoads, that is the fault of MTV.

When you’re judging legacy the music the artist inspired does matter.

It’s not the only factor but it’s one.

Chula Vista 03-17-2018 10:35 PM

Hendrix > Page/Beck/Clapton > Bolin > EVH > Rhoads > Malmsteen/Satriani/Vai

"How to play Insane Rock Guitar for Dummies" right there.

Neapolitan 03-17-2018 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1934084)
Hendrix > Page/Beck/Clapton > Bolin > EVH > Rhoads > Malmsteen/Satriani/Vai

"How to play Insane Rock Guitar for Dummies" right there.

I know this will mean bubkes cause Jimmy Page isn't on the list, but here it goes anyways

How to play Rock Guitar according to Steve Howe:
  • Wes Montgomery
  • Chet Atkins
  • Les Paul
  • Tal Farlow
  • Hank Marvin (The Shadows)
  • Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys*
  • Bill Haley & His Comets*
(*forgot the guitar players, & pedal steel player names, but those groups were still influential.)

Chula Vista 03-17-2018 11:52 PM

Steve Howe is not a rock guitarist. Yes (pun) he played loud and with some distortion, but he went well out of his way to avoid any rock guitar cliches.

All of your Howe influences are 100% spot on though. Leon McAuliffe and Franny Beecher are the names you're missing. Speedy West was also a huge influence.

After hearing CTTE I became a certified Howe junkie. Sold my LP and bought a semi-hollow jazz box and ended up playing Siberian Khatru and All Good People in my late 70s band.

He was so damn hard to ape because his style was so removed from all of the rock of that era. Hell, on the entire Tormato album he didn't use any vibrato - at all.

During the 70s when Page was winning 'Best Rock Guitarist' in the annual Guitar Player magazine polls, Howe was winning every year for 'Best Overall Guitarist'.

My fave Howe track of all time is an outtake that never made one of Yes' official studio recordings. Yes he rocks, but he's not playing rock licks in the traditional sense.



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