Deftones

Forward To Death · 06-27-2012, 06:13 PM

Deftones is definitely nu metal in their early phase. They didn't influence the genre either, they were, along with Korn, Limp Bizkit and Coal Chamber, just an early producer of nu metal.

Honestly, they sound like nu metal that they based around the style of Tool. They've always seemed to want to sound like Tool. Anyways, they're not very original, just **** that RATM, Biohazard and FNM were doing years earlier, and those bands all sounded a lot better.

Rjinn · 06-27-2012, 06:23 PM

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I read somewhere not too long ago that the Deftones vocalist, Chino Moreno, would be releasing an album with Aaron Turner from Isis. Sounds interesting and could be really good.

Chino and Isis? That would produce an awesome baby.

I agree they weren't much of an influence compared to other bands. They did however influence SOAD and Linkin Park though... even Muse which is surprising. Lol

duga · 06-27-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Deftones is definitely nu metal in their early phase. They didn't influence the genre either, they were, along with Korn, Limp Bizkit and Coal Chamber, just an early producer of nu metal.

Honestly, they sound like nu metal that they based around the style of Tool. They've always seemed to want to sound like Tool. Anyways, they're not very original, just **** that RATM, Biohazard and FNM were doing years earlier, and those bands all sounded a lot better.

I never thought they wanted to sound like Tool. Are you saying this because Maynard did a song with them on White Pony?

And I agree they didn't influence nu metal. If they had, it might have sounded a lot better down the road.

Rjinn · 06-27-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

I never thought they wanted to sound like Tool. Are you saying this because Maynard did a song with them on White Pony?

And I agree they didn't influence nu metal. If they had, it might have sounded a lot better down the road.

Besides from doing Passenger with Maynard they sound nothing like Tool. I agree.

Forward To Death · 06-27-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

I never thought they wanted to sound like Tool. Are you saying this because Maynard did a song with them on White Pony?

And I agree they didn't influence nu metal. If they had, it might have sounded a lot better down the road.

Chino considers Maynard his biggest influence, he tries to sing like him a lot, musically it's not complex like Tool, but it doesn't sound unlike Opiate/Undertow type of music, which is as basic as Tool's ever been.

Forward To Death · 06-27-2012, 06:36 PM

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Chino and Isis? That would produce an awesome baby.

I agree they weren't much of an influence compared to other bands. They did however influence SOAD and Linkin Park though... even Muse which is surprising. Lol

I don't hear influence in SOAD at all. SOAD was an alt. metal band with hardcore punk influences.

Rjinn · 06-27-2012, 06:45 PM

Just because they don't sound like each other doesn't mean they weren't influenced by them. They are two different things. For example Tom Morello was influenced by Black Sabbath, but his sound was unique and nothing like them.

Forward To Death · 06-27-2012, 06:54 PM

SOAD wasn't influenced by Deftones. That's like saying Alice In Chains was influenced by Soundgarden because they were an earlier example of alternative metal. Deftones and SOAD have completely different brands of metal, and their influences are different.

Every heavy form of music is influenced by Black Sabbath, and Tom Morello's guitar playing has a VERY 70s sound to it. Audioslave practically sounds like a 70s metal band with Chris' vocals.

You go with influences you can distinguish. In SOAD I can very easily distinguish two bands off the bat. Suicidal Tendencies (circa S/T) and Dead Kennedys. I can also hear influence from Primus in the form of their chaotic chord structures.

Rjinn · 06-27-2012, 07:19 PM

I'm going by what they have cited. If musicians have notably considered other bands as an inspiration that's influence. Doesn't mean they have to have a similar sound. Not saying just because they were an earlier act they are influenced. Honestly they were many heavy acts out there in the 70s if not just prior. You cannot possibly say a band was influenced by all of them by resembling characteristics. That's like saying music influences all types of music because it is music. Don't hear anything in Tom Morello's style that remotely sounds like Back Sabbath or the Clash anyway. That's just my own two cents.

lol I think we are going to work well together.

Metal Connoisseur · 06-28-2012, 08:30 AM

If anything, Deftones moved to include more alt rock/post rock influences into their sound down the road. I think their self-titled is a huge reflection of that shift in sound.

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06-27-2012, 06:45 PM	#87 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	Just because they don't sound like each other doesn't mean they weren't influenced by them. They are two different things. For example Tom Morello was influenced by Black Sabbath, but his sound was unique and nothing like them. __________________ last.fm

06-27-2012, 07:19 PM	#89 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	I'm going by what they have cited. If musicians have notably considered other bands as an inspiration that's influence. Doesn't mean they have to have a similar sound. Not saying just because they were an earlier act they are influenced. Honestly they were many heavy acts out there in the 70s if not just prior. You cannot possibly say a band was influenced by all of them by resembling characteristics. That's like saying music influences all types of music because it is music. Don't hear anything in Tom Morello's style that remotely sounds like Back Sabbath or the Clash anyway. That's just my own two cents. lol I think we are going to work well together. __________________ last.fm

06-28-2012, 08:30 AM	#90 (permalink)
Metal Connoisseur Franchise Player Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 539	If anything, Deftones moved to include more alt rock/post rock influences into their sound down the road. I think their self-titled is a huge reflection of that shift in sound. __________________ Metal Connoisseur's Last.fm

06-27-2012, 06:13 PM	#81 (permalink)
Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	Deftones is definitely nu metal in their early phase. They didn't influence the genre either, they were, along with Korn, Limp Bizkit and Coal Chamber, just an early producer of nu metal. Honestly, they sound like nu metal that they based around the style of Tool. They've always seemed to want to sound like Tool. Anyways, they're not very original, just **** that RATM, Biohazard and FNM were doing years earlier, and those bands all sounded a lot better.

06-27-2012, 06:54 PM	#88 (permalink)
Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	SOAD wasn't influenced by Deftones. That's like saying Alice In Chains was influenced by Soundgarden because they were an earlier example of alternative metal. Deftones and SOAD have completely different brands of metal, and their influences are different. Every heavy form of music is influenced by Black Sabbath, and Tom Morello's guitar playing has a VERY 70s sound to it. Audioslave practically sounds like a 70s metal band with Chris' vocals. You go with influences you can distinguish. In SOAD I can very easily distinguish two bands off the bat. Suicidal Tendencies (circa S/T) and Dead Kennedys. I can also hear influence from Primus in the form of their chaotic chord structures.