Classic Rock (alternative, blues, dance, rap, sinatra)

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-23-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

You're probably right about here, but I think outside of here a lot of classic rock does get a lot of hype. Not specifically the bands you mentioned, but a lot of 60s and 70s rock does get put up on a huge pedestal by the rockists of the western world.

But that's true of the biggest names in any genre. There are plenty of bands from the 80s & 90s that get just as much hero worship as those bands , I don't need to name names we all know who they are.

I think it's ridiculous to suggest that classic rock can be either overrated or underrated. For every Led Zeppelin or Queen there's also bands like for example Nazareth or The Sensational Alex Harvey band. Bands who had a pretty sizeable following in the 70s who have practically been forgotten about now.

**Janszoon** · 03-23-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

But that's true of the biggest names in any genre. There are plenty of bands from the 80s & 90s that get just as much hero worship as those bands , I don't need to name names we all know who they are.

I think it's ridiculous to suggest that classic rock can be either overrated or underrated. For every Led Zeppelin or Queen there's also bands like for example Nazareth or The Sensational Alex Harvey band. Bands who had a pretty sizeable following in the 70s who have been practically been forgotten about now.

That's a good point. I guess I'm just thinking about how whenever mainstream magazines do their 50 greatest rock bands of all time articles or whatever there's always a very noticeable bias toward the 60s and 70s for the bands that get included (The Beatles, The Stones, Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Who, etc.). Maybe that's changing as more time goes by though.

midnight rain · 03-23-2009, 03:18 PM

Speaking of Nazareth, I initially mistook MissMurder's user name for "MissMisery". How badass that would've been if it was a Nazareth (NOT ELLIOTT SMITH) reference rather than an AFI one.

Anyways, I do think the dinosaur classic rock bands are overrated due to some sort of retro trend going on right now where it's actually become cool to bear shirts with the mighty Zep implanted on them. I don't think bands of the 80's and 90's have caught on as much with this generation as the 70's groups (excluding Nirvana) because the baby boom generation is still occupying the radio waves with their "golden oldies" garbage stations. Unfortunately, I was stuck with parents who tuned into these stations constantly and due to overexposure, alot of these bands have burnt out on me.

And I now really and truly hate Journey and Foreigner for the previously stated reasons

darkcornerinthecloset · 03-23-2009, 06:58 PM

its just an opinion i dont mean to start a riot

dac · 03-24-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

But that's true of the biggest names in any genre. There are plenty of bands from the 80s & 90s that get just as much hero worship as those bands , I don't need to name names we all know who they are.

I think it's ridiculous to suggest that classic rock can be either overrated or underrated. For every Led Zeppelin or Queen there's also bands like for example Nazareth or The Sensational Alex Harvey band. Bands who had a pretty sizeable following in the 70s who have practically been forgotten about now.

I still think that the general public consensus is that classic rock is superior. Now maybe you have less fans of the more obscure bands, but that's just because modern music more easily appeals to a modern audience.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-24-2009, 12:51 PM

And that modern audience will get older & the same thing will happen again.

In 20 years time I bet your kids / nephews & neices / whatever get bored of you droning on about how great Radiohead & Neutral Milk Hotel are and denounce all 90s alternative as old overrated shit.

lucifer_sam · 03-24-2009, 12:58 PM

Christ. I hope those bands never achieve such immortality. I know I'm going to have to cope with Nirvana set up there on the same pedestal as all these other bands, which is pretty infuriating itself.

dac · 03-24-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

And that modern audience will get older & the same thing will happen again.

In 20 years time I bet your kids / nephews & neices / whatever get bored of you droning on about how great Radiohead & Neutral Milk Hotel are and denounce all 90s alternative as old overrated shit.

That's the thing though... I don't think the majority categorize it as "old overrated shit." I think there's an immense amount of respect for everything to come out of the 60's and 70's.

**And you're out of your mind if you think I'd let my kids talk that way about Radiohead

midnight rain · 03-24-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

And that modern audience will get older & the same thing will happen again.

In 20 years time I bet your kids / nephews & neices / whatever get bored of you droning on about how great Radiohead & Neutral Milk Hotel are and denounce all 90s alternative as old overrated shit.

But I think that the digital age has had an indelible effect on music, kind of results in less of a personal connection to music. There's no "rockstars" it seems anymore, that term seems to have been taken up by none other than rap stars...

But I see your point, all the big artists of today treading old ground and not doing anything different are going to be forgotten much the way alot of 70's bores are now forgotten (good riddance at that). But the thing is, there wasn't really any retro trend going on during the baby boom generation, no Frank Sinatra revivals (as far as I know), so that's why I think this retro-trend bull**** is unique in that respect

**Janszoon** · 03-24-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz

But the thing is, there wasn't really any retro trend going on during the baby boom generation, no Frank Sinatra revivals (as far as I know), so that's why I think this retro-trend bull**** is unique in that respect

Sure there was. What do you think the hippy obsession with blues and folk was all about?

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midnight rain Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,711	Speaking of Nazareth, I initially mistook MissMurder's user name for "MissMisery". How badass that would've been if it was a Nazareth (NOT ELLIOTT SMITH) reference rather than an AFI one. Anyways, I do think the dinosaur classic rock bands are overrated due to some sort of retro trend going on right now where it's actually become cool to bear shirts with the mighty Zep implanted on them. I don't think bands of the 80's and 90's have caught on as much with this generation as the 70's groups (excluding Nirvana) because the baby boom generation is still occupying the radio waves with their "golden oldies" garbage stations. Unfortunately, I was stuck with parents who tuned into these stations constantly and due to overexposure, alot of these bands have burnt out on me. And I now really and truly hate Journey and Foreigner for the previously stated reasons