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Urban Hat€monger ? 05-30-2006 12:30 AM

didn`t i just say i did?

You don`t think having a top 5 album & appearing on Top Of The Pops is known?

Metalyears 05-30-2006 12:54 AM

No it's not man because none of those albums debuted in the top 200 none of them Iron Maiden album reached #4 but not in 1980 dude. you think just because a album comes out and records are there you think that is the year that they peaked? hell no Iron maiden albums did'nt peak untill 82. I guarantee you anything that i am right. all these bands did not peak between any of those years. Give Me one source where it says that A Album Debuted at that position. NOt that a band's debute album reached a peak position very big difference. all those bands of the new wave of british heavy metal did not go gold untill later years and then platinum i guarantee you anything. As a matter of fact Iron maiden was barely touring with Judas Priest.

boo boo 05-30-2006 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Metalyears
if you check from 1975 to 1981 nothing metal was known to the world.

:laughing:

Hmm....


Also, how in the hell did punk rock hurt metal?.... It f*cking HELPED metal, many late 70s/80s metal bands had noticable punk influences.... That includes Iron Maiden, Slayer and Guns N Roses.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-30-2006 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Metalyears
No it's not man because none of those albums debuted in the top 200 none of them Iron Maiden album reached #4 but not in 1980 dude. you think just because a album comes out and records are there you think that is the year that they peaked? hell no Iron maiden albums did'nt peak untill 82. I guarantee you anything that i am right. all these bands did not peak between any of those years. Give Me one source where it says that A Album Debuted at that position. NOt that a band's debute album reached a peak position very big difference. all those bands of the new wave of british heavy metal did not go gold untill later years and then platinum i guarantee you anything. As a matter of fact Iron maiden was barely touring with Judas Priest.

From the sleevenotes of Iron Maiden`s first album...

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Feb 23rd 1980 - Running Free is released & reaches no 34 in the UK charts.The band become the first band to play on Top Of The Pops totally live since The Who in 1972.

April 14 1980 - The band release their debut album charting at No 4. They play a charity gig at the Ruskin Arms to celebrate.

June 7th - Sanctuary released charts at No 29

August 23rd - Band play 2nd on the bill to UFO at the Reading festival in front of 30,000 fans.
Now why would you play a celebratory gig at reaching no 4 in the charts years before it happened huh?
And you`re hardly likely to play 2nd on the bill at Reading if you have no fans right?

mosesandtherubberducky 05-30-2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
:laughing:

Hmm....


Also, how in the hell did punk rock hurt metal?.... It f*cking HELPED metal, many late 70s/80s metal bands had noticable punk influences.... That includes Iron Maiden, Slayer and Guns N Roses.


Don't forget Metallica, James is a huge Misfits fan.

dojo 05-30-2006 11:26 AM

I;d chose AC/DC any time, even if I find some of the songs to be quite alike

judas_priest 05-30-2006 11:58 AM

I prefer Kiss. They've done more good stuff than ACDC I think. I really like their Creatures Of The Night album.

Metalyears 05-30-2006 06:02 PM

No use in trying to make you kids understand. Just way too ignorant especially from not even being born at that time. And not knowing the history of Metal. It's funny how the facts are there and still you are too ignorant to understand. The Decline of western Civilization I,II. The Immediate arrival. The New wave. The punk Uprise in the Berlin Capitol. oo you but you little 16 17 year old kids know it all. The New wave was called that for no apparent reason but yeah albums that were realeased on date and later exposed on great fame make you believe that bands were known by that time. urban hatemonger you don't know nothing you don't even know how to wipe your ass how the hell are you gonna kick my ass.

bungalow 05-30-2006 06:04 PM

What a stupid fool.
You are a stupid ignorant metalhead bitch.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-30-2006 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalyears
No use in trying to make you kids understand. Just way too ignorant especially from not even being born at that time. And not knowing the history of Metal. It's funny how the facts are there and still you are too ignorant to understand. The Decline of western Civilization I,II. The Immediate arrival. The New wave. The punk Uprise in the Berlin Capitol. oo you but you little 16 17 year old kids know it all. The New wave was called that for no apparent reason but yeah albums that were realeased on date and later exposed on great fame make you believe that bands were known by that time. urban hatemonger you don't know nothing you don't even know how to wipe your ass how the hell are you gonna kick my ass.

You`re saying the guy who compiles the literature for Iron Maidens sleevenotes doesn`t know what he`s talking about?

Metalyears 05-30-2006 06:05 PM

yeah pussy real tough behind the net especially from a little kid. You fake wannabe

Metalyears 05-30-2006 06:06 PM

Dude Iron Maiden Album Did Not Debute At The Top ... Their Debute Album Reached The Top.... Look At The Difference..

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-30-2006 06:07 PM

You asked for facts

I gave you them and the source of them

So do you despute the bands official biographer or are you just going to go on making pathetic threats?

Funny that most of these 16/17 year old kids can construct a lot better arguement than you ever could.

bungalow 05-30-2006 06:07 PM

Is your shift key broken you dumb bitch?
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Funny that most of these 16/17 year old kids can construct a lot better arguement than you ever could.
Like me =]

I wanna know how old this guy really is.
I bet he is just some 17 year old kid who feels superior to all the other 17 year old kids because he found a few Maiden records and fell in love.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-30-2006 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
Like me =]

Don`t sell yourself short like that Bill ;)

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-30-2006 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
I wanna know how old this guy really is.
I bet he is just some 17 year old kid who feels superior to all the other 17 year old kids because he found a few Maiden records and fell in love.

I doubt it

Remember 'He was there'

I`m guessing he was around 50 years old at the time , given the NWOBHM was in 1980 i`d say he`s now about 75 & dementia has set in.

Hey Metalyears , do you need to go to the toilet yet?

Metalyears 05-30-2006 06:13 PM

ooo yeah bye cussing at me wow . what a better arguement. Is that the way it's down now. The hell with it why even bother a bunch of little kids with no life and i can tell by your stupid post and the amount of time you all spend on the internet researching data. Which is correct but your stupid brain isn't processing it correctly. Somebody has a statement to make and there you and your thred nerd friends began saying stupid things and kissing each others ass so that you all try to make yourself stop looking stupid. I never once insulted anybody in the beginning for their objection. I put out a statement and you reply to it because it describes you.

Metalyears 05-30-2006 06:14 PM

you see just sucking each others **** like little queers. hahahahah hahahahahaha just made my point.

bungalow 05-30-2006 06:16 PM

How are you going to sit behind your computer, on an internet forum, and call us nerds for using them? And how can you dispute the writing in the liner notes FROM THE ALBUM YOU ARE DISCUSSING? Does your argument actually hold up in your head?

I hope we met up some day, so you can hit me, and then your old ass can go to jail. Bitch.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-30-2006 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalyears
I never once insulted anybody in the beginning for their objection.

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yeah pussy real tough behind the net especially from a little kid. You fake wannabe
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urban hatemonger you don't know nothing you don't even know how to wipe your ass how the hell are you gonna kick my ass
No not much huh

shiftael 05-30-2006 06:45 PM

Ace & pter , teh original Ace & Peter anyway were teh berad and butter.. Ace is a very aweseome guitar player and if anyone could try and strip away the image thing and listen to them msuically they'd see just how good musicians Peter & Ace are and Pauls a decent guitarist especially given the fact he's deaf in ione ear 9seeriously, no joke)

AC/DC's great, too, I like some of their 80's stuff but anything with Bon Scott blows anything over Brian Johnson

jr. 05-30-2006 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalyears
No use in trying to make you kids understand. Just way too ignorant especially from not even being born at that time. And not knowing the history of Metal. It's funny how the facts are there and still you are too ignorant to understand. The Decline of western Civilization I,II. The Immediate arrival. The New wave. The punk Uprise in the Berlin Capitol. oo you but you little 16 17 year old kids know it all. The New wave was called that for no apparent reason but yeah albums that were realeased on date and later exposed on great fame make you believe that bands were known by that time. urban hatemonger you don't know nothing you don't even know how to wipe your ass how the hell are you gonna kick my ass.


Said the 'grown up'

Stone Magnet 05-30-2006 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalyears
you see just sucking each others **** like little queers. hahahahah hahahahahaha just made my point.

Please kill yourself.

jr. 05-30-2006 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalyears
Damn your too young you don't understand those albums were out but they weren't known. It took judas priest more then 10 years to gain it recognition and then dave murray and steve harris recognition came after Judas Priest. See that is why they are called the Metal Gods. The Band To Reinvent Metal. for a reason they call them that. WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S CALLED THE NEW WAVE OF BRITISH HEAVY METAL??


Did you know, Judas Priest opened for KISS? I saw the show in Philly, in either 77 or 78.

jr. 05-30-2006 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalyears
yeah pussy real tough behind the net especially from a little kid. You fake wannabe


This is the Irony Police. Step away from the keyboard.

jr. 05-30-2006 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalyears
you see just sucking each others **** like little queers. hahahahah hahahahahaha just made my point.


I repeat...said the grown up.


What is the over/under on Metalyears account being disabled? 4 days? One week?

place your bets!!!

boo boo 05-31-2006 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jr.
I repeat...said the grown up.


What is the over/under on Metalyears account being disabled? 4 days? One week?

place your bets!!!

Today.

Well what do ya know... He has been banned, give me all your money. :love:

shiftael 05-31-2006 11:10 AM

3 cheers and celebration for all!

judas_priest 05-31-2006 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jr.
This is the Irony Police. Step away from the keyboard.

:laughing:

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-31-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Today.

Well what do ya know... He has been banned, give me all your money. :love:

Awww shame he`s gone

I was hoping he`d get in an arguement with Some Exotic Booze.
Would have been fun to see him get his ass kicked by a 12 year old girl :laughing:

mosesandtherubberducky 05-31-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Awww shame he`s gone

I was hoping he`d get in an arguement with Some Exotic Booze.
Would have been fun to see him get his ass kicked by a 12 year old girl :laughing:


that
would
own

And it would give me something to chuckle about.

Metalyears 06-10-2006 03:45 AM

Ummm no actually i was not banned or maybe I was I don't know haven't gone online, because I have a life unlike the rest of you queer's. Hah you know what. Its funny you little ***s tried to ban me HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAH wow what a bunch of queers. oo and (I WAS) in london in 1980-82. You see while i saw and talked to Rob halford, paul di'anno, steve harris and dave murray, you little ***gots weren't even born and you ***s will never even get to see any of them. Not one of you little stupid kids can even prove me wrong, this dumbass only has two stupid cliffnotes i have more then 20 hours of video footage and more then 1,000 pages that prove me right. None of you little queers who kiss each others ass can even object to any of those articles books, documentaries, and tribute movies. What makes you think you are ever gonna know more then me. Hahaha and then your friends come up with stupid things like I HOPE YOU PUNCH ME SOO I CAN CALL THE POLICE.. lmfao what kind of **** is that. hahahaha if i punched you they would have to call the ambulance and pick your ass off the ground. Then this moron says that heaven and hell was a crappy album. WTF????
Before you speak and contradict listen to the experts who wrote about the story of metal.
how can anybody even contradict The death of metal, The decline of western civilization II, Judas priest : Pioneers of the resurrection.
(Leaders of the NWOBHM) ooo but you know more then the authors, I forgot about that. hahahahahah I got banned hahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-10-2006 03:48 AM

yawn

The Ten Thousandth Fist 06-10-2006 10:24 AM

...It's June and there's a blizzard in Metalyear's post. Huh, whaddya know.

Anyway. I haven't exactly listened to much of AC/DC or KISS, but the songs I've heard were both well-done. I think I have to give the edge - right now - to KISS, just because I've heard more of their music.

That and I did see them live in concert last September... heh, fifth row center. The show was okay - I seem to remember the on-stage stuff more than the songs themselves, which fits with the argument about KISS being more show than song.

kissdrumr 08-20-2010 05:21 PM

Kiss kills ac/dc all around the block...
 
Angus betterthan Ace??? Are u serious???? Angus plays the most basic riffs ive ever heard & has nowhere near the blazing solos Ace has. Ace walks up & down angus. As far as ur vocals goes it should be straight up either Paul against Bon or Brian not including Gene or Ace, so the edge clearly goes to Paul by miles. Drums totally agree & Bass. Songwriting , u must not be very familiar with Kiss' material or u would know Kiss have many songs that arent about women. Their lyrics are hands down again miles ahead of ac/dc. The only reason people hate Kiss & refuse to give them the props they deserve is because they took their fame to heights no other band including ac/dc could. And the get this "sellout" label which is utter bullocks. All bands sell merchandise, all bands wanna be rich, all bands wanna be famous bottom line..... They just cant top Kiss is why people hate. And Kiss does what they wants how they want & get away with it pure & simple ....

Unknown Soldier 08-20-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kissdrumr (Post 920933)
Angus betterthan Ace??? Are u serious???? Angus plays the most basic riffs ive ever heard & has nowhere near the blazing solos Ace has. Ace walks up & down angus. As far as ur vocals goes it should be straight up either Paul against Bon or Brian not including Gene or Ace, so the edge clearly goes to Paul by miles. Drums totally agree & Bass. Songwriting , u must not be very familiar with Kiss' material or u would know Kiss have many songs that arent about women. Their lyrics are hands down again miles ahead of ac/dc. The only reason people hate Kiss & refuse to give them the props they deserve is because they took their fame to heights no other band including ac/dc could. And the get this "sellout" label which is utter bullocks. All bands sell merchandise, all bands wanna be rich, all bands wanna be famous bottom line..... They just cant top Kiss is why people hate. And Kiss does what they wants how they want & get away with it pure & simple ....

You`re probably the only person on the whole forum that thinks Kiss superior to AC/DC.

The vast majority of Kiss`s discography is very forgettable, with the exception of the "Destroyer" album and a couple of their early songs like "Strutter"

The Monkey 08-23-2010 04:33 PM

I have a strong dislike for both bands, but I suppose AC/DC is the least bad.


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