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Double X 06-27-2008 09:56 PM

The Kinks are like epitome of the British invasion to me, Beatles are still my favorite though.

boo boo 06-27-2008 10:16 PM

Wouldn't it just be easier to seperate the "british invasion" by waves? You know.

The Beatles, Rolling Stones, The Who, The Kinks, Yardbirds, The Animals, The Zombies, Dave Clark Five, The Moody Blues, Donovan = First wave

Cream, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, Yes, King Crimson, David Bowie, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Queen, Genesis = Second wave.

The Clash, The Sex Pistols, The Buzzc*cks, Joy Division, Elvis Costello, The Fall, Gang of Four, Wire = Third wave.

The Smiths, The Cure, The Police, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, The Jesus and Mary Chain, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Echo & the Bunnymen = Fourth wave.

Stone Roses, My Bloody Valentine, Primal Scream, Happy Mondays = Fifth wave, actually I wouldn't call this one an invasion. :laughing:

Radiohead, Blur, Oasis, Suede, Pulp, Supergrass, The Verve, Portishead, Aphex Twin, Massive Attack, Stereolab = Sixth wave.

Muse, Coldplay, Arctic Monkeys, The Streets, Lilly Allen, whatever else you guys have, I'm not keeping track anymore = Seventh wave, the dark ages.

Man, you brits really do kick our asses at this whole music thing. Well, you did until now.

variatingmule 06-27-2008 11:25 PM

I think we should limit the invasions to times when the Americans didn't produce/export much good music, ie, stopping the first wave around Jimi Hendrix moving to England, then 80s pop would be the second (Synchronicity and all that crap). Some great music was made in the 70s in the US, which didn't leave much chance of real invasion.

WaspStar 06-28-2008 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 493549)
Man, you brits really do kick our asses at this whole music thing. Well, you did until now.


I have this (controversial?) theory that all the best solo artists were American and that all the best bands were British. The only exceptions are the VU and Elvis Costello, and I would argue that Costello is the exception that proves the rule, because all of his best records were made with the Attractions.

The Monkey 06-28-2008 09:35 AM

I was referring to the first invasion when I made this poll, sorry for not making that clearer.

stevesonthebay 06-29-2008 10:39 PM

the beatles are my favorite, the stones get my respect for their inovation with blues back then and for their longevity.
i think musos like bowie, elton john, slade and the sweet were part of the invasion but were more glam rock. england created some good music and it was always changing and evolving. i also like the black blues/soul/gospel/rock sound that came from the south of america. bo didely, muddy waters, bb king, ella fitzgerald and billy holliday. through to buddy guy, keb mo, son seals. i recken some of those joot joints would have been going off.

Rainard Jalen 06-30-2008 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by the_dp (Post 491996)
The Beatles still rule, but the more you listen to their stuff the more you realize that George Harrison created their best products. Lennon and McCartney were kind of douches.

......he wrote about 5 good songs. The standard of everything he did before 1968 was by his own admission amateurish and mediocre, at least when compared to the dexterity and experience of John and Paul. Production only allowed those songs onto the albums either to placate him or as filler (like tossing a song to Ringo).

the_dp 06-30-2008 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 493939)
......he wrote about 5 good songs. The standard of everything he did before 1968 was by his own admission amateurish and mediocre, at least when compared to the dexterity and experience of John and Paul. Production only allowed those songs onto the albums either to placate him or as filler (like tossing a song to Ringo).

so you are not familiar with his post beatles work then? and if you say he wrote five good songs then you probably don't know much about the beatles.

Rainard Jalen 07-01-2008 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by the_dp (Post 493949)
so you are not familiar with his post beatles work then? and if you say he wrote five good songs then you probably don't know much about the beatles.

He wrote about 5 songs that were of Lennon/McCartney quality. His own view of his pre-1968 material was that it was mediocre by comparison to John and Paul's, and it is widely known that he only really comes into his own as a seriously strong and competetive songwriter by The White Album. At any rate, you were not talking about his post-Beatles work. You claimed that he created the Beatles' best products, which is straight-up nonsense. For one, he wrote no more than about 10% of the band's whole discography, of which about a third (at the most) were particularly good. Hell, he hardly ever even felt truly confident enough to write his own material until very late on. He felt he had to get help from John and Paul on songs like Taxman for example, which John reluctantly acquiesced and helped him out with.

You ought to stop saying to people "you probably don't know much about such and such" - it's becoming a broken record, and it has been proven repeatedly that others here not only seem to know better than you do, but express it a lot better too. Seriously dude, just stick to the points and stop feeling you have to call people "ignorant" or whatever. If they are, then prove it with your evidence and your argument.

right-track 07-02-2008 12:50 PM

Technically, The Kinks shouldn't be in this poll...they were banned from entering the U.S. for a period of 4 years during the height of the 'British Invasion'.

Most Americans at the time knew very little about them, by comparison to the others on that list.


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