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gunnels 06-20-2009 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 682876)
The last few pages (I have 30 ppp) have been comedic gold. Anyways I've worked out a formula that relates relative intelligence to eventual band preference.

It's quite simple.

B=-(X-C-T)
and R=(X+C+T)

Where B is Love for the Beatles
R is Love for the Rolling Stones
X is intelligence
C is common sense
and T is taste
as such negative intelligence, common sense and taste leads to a large love for the beatles, and vice versa.

I wonder what this inequality will do to Comus' mind.
What if I say...
Neutral Milk Hotel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rolling Stones>Beatles>>>>> Mountain Ash Band.

:p:

zeppy111 06-20-2009 03:32 AM

No Mountain Ash Band love :(

Neapolitan 06-20-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer (Post 686604)

And Neapolitan, 'irregardless' is a cringe-worthy word.

Sorry, I've should had said 'irrespective and regardless of the poll numbers...'

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comus (Post 682876)
The last few pages (I have 30 ppp) have been comedic gold. Anyways I've worked out a formula that relates relative intelligence to eventual band preference.

It's quite simple.

B=-(X-C-T)
and R=(X+C+T)

Where B is Love for the Beatles
R is Love for the Rolling Stones
X is intelligence
C is common sense
and T is taste
as such negative intelligence, common sense and taste leads to a large love for the beatles, and vice versa.

You were so close to XTC as an equation man that would have been something, R = (X+T+C), but XTC would have been a stranger comparison The Rolling Stones then Poison, who's the numby numb nuts that thought of "R.S. V. P." anyway??

And your Beatles equation,B=-(X-C-T), should be simplified to B=(C+T-X) algebraically speaking.

I thouhgt of other factors:
C for Commercialism
M for Musicality
O for Overplayability on the Radio
S for Staying power
U for Undergroundness

I hope my formulae are fair to everyone, both The Beatles' and Stones' fans

The Beatles = (Staying power/Overplayedness)(Undergroundness)+(Musicality/Commercialism)
The Rolling Stones = (Commericalism/Overplayedness)(Musicality)+1/2(Undergroundness + Staying power)

Comus 06-20-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 686610)
I wonder what this inequality will do to Comus' mind.
What if I say...
Neutral Milk Hotel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rolling Stones>Beatles>>>>> Mountain Ash Band.

:p:

b7

EDIT: o wait I'm not a mod here :(

boo boo 06-22-2009 07:15 PM

I'm working on a bass guitarists list right now, and adding an album for each bassist.

And Urban, since you're the Stones expert, I have a question, which album has Bill Wyman's best bass work in your opinion?

JKSmith 06-22-2009 07:29 PM

Why not both?

Neapolitan 06-22-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 688348)
I'm working on a bass guitarists list right now, and adding an album for each bassist.

And Urban, since you're the Stones expert, I have a question, which album has Bill Wyman's best bass work in your opinion?

Let It Bleed
I always thought that the live album Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out! / The Rolling Stones in Concert had a lot of memorable Bill bass-lines.

Scarlett O'Hara 06-24-2009 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 682235)
Why on earth would you compare the Stones to Poison?

:laughing:

I just don't think you can compare the Stones to anyone, they're in a league of their own. I still have fond memories of seeing them live a couple of years ago. Keith Richards singing = major orgasms.

Neapolitan 06-25-2009 10:25 PM

Keith Richards, when he was in school (many many moons ago) used to sing soprano in a boys choir.

jmfmr 07-06-2009 01:48 PM

Stones are genious, Beatles are a band of pussy boys, but they dont sound bad. Anyway, Stones are the best band ever, they own Beatles alot, they bold much better the rock songs and they still do it, all generations love them and they continue spreading magic, they will rock till the day they die, for sure

Neapolitan 07-08-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jmfmr (Post 699289)
Stones are genious, Beatles are a band of pussy boys, but they dont sound bad.

Do you mean The Beatles are a band of Teddy Boys?

Gavin B. 07-08-2009 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jmfmr (Post 699289)
Stones are genious, Beatles are a band of pussy boys, but they dont sound bad. Anyway, Stones are the best band ever, they own Beatles alot, they bold much better the rock songs and they still do it, all generations love them and they continue spreading magic, they will rock till the day they die, for sure

And the Who owned the Stones when both bands were in their prime. Watch the documentary Rock and Roll Circus where the Who blew the Stones away when they both played on the same television special live. In fact the Stones looked so bad compared to the Who that they shelved the project and didn't release the video of the show for 25 years.

I posted each band's performance so you can see it for yourself.

The Who: The Who always gave a great performance even if the song was A Quick One, which kinda sucked. The Who always had difficult time finding a decent band to play on the same bill with them because no matter what band it was, the Who would always blow the other acts away. I went to a Who show in 1969 in St. Louis and the newly formed Led Zeppelin backed out of the top billing on the show because the Who was blowing them off the stage night after night on the tour. The only band that ever managed to look good on the same bill with the Who was the Jimi Hendrix Experience in 1967 at Monterey.



The Stones: Except for Keith it looked like the entire band wanted to be somewhere else. Brian Jones already looks dead and actually died a few months after this performance which was his last with the Rolling Stones. They're playing Jumping Jack Flash which was their take no prisoners song in 1968. I saw them the following year after Mick Taylor replaced Brian Jones on guitar and they were playing with a lot more passion and a sense of vision than this half baked performance.


boo boo 07-09-2009 01:30 AM

The Beatles > The Who > The Kinks >>> The Stones

Neapolitan 07-09-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 700888)
The Beatles > The Who > The Kinks >>> The Stones



The Beatles = The Rolling Stones > The Yardbirds > The Kinks > The Dave Clark 5 > The Hollies > The Tremolos >>> The Bee Gees >>>>>> The Who

boo boo 07-09-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 701276)
The Beatles = The Rolling Stones > The Yardbirds > The Kinks > The Dave Clark 5 > The Hollies > The Tremolos >>> The Bee Gees >>>>>> The Who

No.... just, no.

Son of JayJamJah 07-09-2009 10:57 PM

The Who>St. Elmo's Fire>Tickle Me Elmo>Apathy>Rabies>Herpes>Al Sharpton> This Thread Still getting more hits then any Members Journal or Editors Picks.

crash_override 07-11-2009 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 700888)
The Beatles > The Who > The Kinks >>> The Stones

This. I couldn't have drawn it up better myself.

Neapolitan 07-11-2009 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 701288)
No.... just, no.

Boo,
How about if I add them together, and throw in STP, would you agree then?


The Beatles = The Rolling Stones > The Yardbirds > The Kinks > The Dave Clark 5 > The Hollies > The Tremolos >>> The Bee Gees >>>>>>Stone Temple Pilots>>>>>>The Who>St. Elmo's Fire>Tickle Me Elmo>Apathy>Rabies>Herpes>Al Sharpton> This Thread Still getting more hits then any Members Journal or Editors Picks

Dr.Seussicide 07-11-2009 03:51 PM

Stones 1,000,000,057 99.90%
Beatles 1,000,067 0.10%

Am I seeing right? Did 1 billion people really vote on this thread? :S

Vote With A Bullet 07-11-2009 03:56 PM

^ I was just wondering that, and so many people in favour of the Stones as well which is interesting.

I think Beatles cultural impact that transcended their music gives them much more merit than the Stones. However, that's just my opinion.

khfreek 07-11-2009 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vote With A Bullet (Post 702179)
^ I was just wondering that, and so many people in favour of the Stones as well which is interesting.

I think Beatles cultural impact that transcended their music gives them much more merit than the Stones. However, that's just my opinion.

lul

A mod changed the results because this thread was getting stale, I believe.

Vote With A Bullet 07-11-2009 04:05 PM

Oh fair enough. He was a Stones fan then, I take it lol.

Dr.Seussicide 07-11-2009 04:08 PM

Yeah, I know what you mean, I kinda prefer The Beatles over the Stones, but that's just my opinion. Even rolling stones magazine gives Beatles their props. Four of their albums in the top 10 albums of all time, including the number one spot with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band...gotta count for something. Plus number one greatest artist of all time. Even the number one spot for best songwriting duos ever... then again, people would say the rolling stones magazine ****ride The Beatles over The Rolling Stones...oh the irony...

Dr.Seussicide 07-11-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 702182)
lul

A mod changed the results becuse this thread was getting stale, I believe.

Seriously? Lol... ah well XD

Neapolitan 07-12-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 702184)
Even rolling stones magazine gives Beatles their props.... then again, people would say the rolling stones magazine ****ride The Beatles over The Rolling Stones...oh the irony...

The magazine is called "Rolling Stone"
The band is called "The Rolling Stones"
one has nothing to do with the other...oh the irony...

Dr.Seussicide 07-12-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 702670)
The magazine is called "Rolling Stone"
The band is called "The Rolling Stones"
one has nothing to do with the other...oh the irony...

Hmmm... then maybe it's name has absolutely no connection with the band... even despite the magazine coming under publication in the late 1960's... and the fact that one of Jann Wenner's heroes was Mick Jagger... oh well

boo boo 07-13-2009 08:03 AM

Urban changed the Stones to 1,000,068 or whatever it was, and then I changed the Beatles to match but be one vote higher, and then he changed the Stones to what it is now.

Fanboism at it's worst. :laughing:

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-13-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 702841)
Urban changed the Stones to 1,000,068 or whatever it was, and then I changed the Beatles to match but be one vote higher, and then he changed the Stones to what it is now.

Fanboism at it's worst. :laughing:

Actually it wasn't me the 2nd time

annapurna 07-13-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 702683)
Hmmm... then maybe it's name has absolutely no connection with the band... even despite the magazine coming under publication in the late 1960's... and the fact that one of Jann Wenner's heroes was Mick Jagger... oh well

The magazine and the band got their name from the Muddy Water's song "Rollin' Stone."

Dr.Seussicide 07-13-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by annapurna (Post 703095)
The magazine and the band got their name from the Muddy Water's song "Rollin' Stone."

Oh ok

Neapolitan 07-13-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thelonelystoner (Post 702783)
is this poll seriously accurate? the rolling stones got ****ing ONE MILLION votes? how the **** is this even possible

and i'm not even saying just because i like the beatles better

Yes, the results are quite serious and unfortunately accurate - a real disappointment for Beatle fans, huh?

Dr.Seussicide 07-13-2009 08:01 PM

I think if you minus the billion from the rolling stones and the million from the beatles, those are the actual results

Neapolitan 07-14-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 703134)
I think if you minus the billion from the rolling stones and the million from the beatles, those are the actual results

good golly miss molly, I never thought of that, I always thought that there were a billion Stones fans out there that voted, I thought all the Stones fans in the world knew each other - they were all connected on the same phone plan or something and they texted or phoned each other to vote on MB for the Stones you know like a grass roots movement, to prove the Stones were better.

Dr.Seussicide 07-14-2009 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 703759)
good golly miss molly, I never thought of that, I always thought that there were a billion Stones fans out there that voted, I thought all the Stones fans in the world knew each other - they were all connected on the same phone plan or something and they texted or phoned each other to vote on MB for the Stones you know like a grass roots movement, to prove the Stones were better.

Maybe they're connected on an even deeper plane... via telekinesis and ESP and intermittent meetings through lucid dreaming, where they all come together and vote. But hey, that's just my suggestion

Neapolitan 07-14-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 703762)
Maybe they're connected on an even deeper plane... via telekinesis and ESP and intermittent meetings through lucid dreaming, where they all come together and vote. But hey, that's just my suggestion

yeah, I heard Keith Richards uses anti-gravity boots and sleeps up-side-down and there's so many chemicals in his blood, and just maybe it makes him like a human transmitter or something like that so maybe they [the Stones fans] are picking up his brain-waves, I just wonder if his telepathy is just as muddled as his speech? maybe someone should ask them about that

bungalow 07-14-2009 07:58 PM

I think Rolling Stones fans are bitter because it is a widely known, indisputable fact that the Beatles are the greater and better band. This poll MUST have been created by a Stones fan because a Beatles fan wouldn't even bother with such a futile and obvious question. We know which band is greater, and we don't need to create threads to seek out other Beatles fans online who will militantly reinforce our position that the Beatles are the greater band. It's just sort of a fact of life. The Beatles are better.

anticipation 07-15-2009 10:14 AM

best thread evar, you guys are welcome.


except you bill, you're not welcome :(

crash_override 07-15-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 704004)
best thread evar, you guys are welcome.


except you bill, you're not welcome :(

^This,

proves this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungalow (Post 703787)
I think Rolling Stones fans are bitter because it is a widely known, indisputable fact that the Beatles are the greater and better band. This poll MUST have been created by a Stones fan because a Beatles fan wouldn't even bother with such a futile and obvious question. We know which band is greater, and we don't need to create threads to seek out other Beatles fans online who will militantly reinforce our position that the Beatles are the greater band. It's just sort of a fact of life. The Beatles are better.


Shivs 07-22-2009 09:44 PM

I love both, but I listen to the Stones more. There's more I like to listen to there.

half drag 07-22-2009 10:05 PM

What kind of horsesh*t is this? One billion to one million in favor of the Stones?! Come on this is just a joke.
That's 100% Stones for those not doing the math. And more votes than actually could have occurred here.
What gives with that?


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