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WWWP 10-10-2008 11:39 PM

Funk I believe.

tristix 10-11-2008 03:54 PM

I'd classify his music as R n B too.

Molecules 10-11-2008 03:56 PM

Both. You listen to 'Live at the Apollo' and tell me that's funk. It was soul up to the lates 60's at least.

and whoever said Clinton, he was P-Funk. That be the pure/psychedelic/parliament funk. different thing bay-beh

TheBig3 10-12-2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 507671)
"The godfather of Soul in the belly of the beast, Smokin' that dust at St. anthony's feast"
- Beastie Boys

winner.

Clamz 10-16-2008 04:42 PM

He started off with some great soul numbers, and kept the soul element throughout, but too much of his work is so damn funky I can't choose otherwise.

Also, everyone should listen to the album The Payback if they haven't yet. Some of the best "background music" (in a good way) ever, and one of the ultimate documents as far as superb groove-work.

anticipation 10-16-2008 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tristix (Post 529460)
He started off his career in Soul and later helped pioneer Funk. He also is the Father of Hiphop. A lot of hiphop tracks are James brown beats!!!

to quote mac,

wrong.

sleepy jack 10-18-2008 09:01 PM

lol, no it isn't, Gil Scott-Heron is.

Gavin B. 01-17-2009 07:00 AM

I'm a musical pluralist who thinks there is a lot of categorical hair-splitting going on. To me it's all R&B.

In the early 70s several future members of P-Funk were in James Brown's backup band after he fired veteran JB band leader Maceo Parker and the rest of the charter members of the JB band.

Practically overnight Brown hired Bootsy Collins, Bobby Byrd, Catfish Collins, Clayton Gunnels, Frank Waddy, Robert McCollough and Jabo Strarks to replace the JB band. Prior to James Brown, Bootsy and Catfish were playing gigs at an Atlanta eatery and bar called the Wine Cellar under the name of the Dap Kings and several other names. They were all still in their teens and Brown hired these young upstarts without an audition the and basically trained them to play his music.

Brown had only heard Bootsy and Catfish's band once by happenstance before he made his impulsive decision to hire these young turks, but Brown's musical acumen proved to be brilliant. This younger, rawer sound of the James Brown band was the template for most funk music for the next two decades.

And nearly all those James Brown players did a tour of duty on George Clinton's Mothership, following their hitch with the James Brown Band. George Clinton pyschedelicized funk but there were R&B bands that predated Clinton's fusion of psychedelica and funk, most notably the Chambers Brothers and Sly Stone. But it was James Brown who was truly the Godfather all funk musicians.

Early in the 1960s James Brown invented the deeply grooved drum and bass sound and the repetative but complex one chord vamp that was the basis for all funk and much of hip-hop. His contributions to both modern funk and hip hop were enormous. The earliest hip hop samples by Chuck D, Public Enemy, and Afrika Bambaataa were borrowed from James Brown grooves.

iksosept 01-17-2009 04:53 PM

Today my parents happend to reveal that they didn't know what Funk was, never even heard of the word (!)
So my father asked whether it had anything to do with Motown, and I said no, that's Soul
so I said something like: wait, I'll get my notebook and then I'll show you some music by James Brown... You know? James Brown the Godfather of
and then I stopped, irritated by the title.. Soul

however, I showed them James Brown as a Funk artist, just 2 hours ago, and therefore I go with Funk
(soulful Funk, if that makes sense?)

Gavin B. 01-17-2009 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iksosept (Post 580705)
Today my parents happend to reveal that they didn't know what Funk was, never even heard of the word (!)

Gavin B's Law of Funkatronics: You can't be funky if you haven't got a soul.


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