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Demonoid 09-03-2008 02:57 PM

I've goota go with Innvervisions.
****, that album is just dope ;)

right-track 09-12-2008 05:08 PM

Just watched Jonathan Ross try to play drums in Stevie Wonder's band on TV...he was shit.

The point is, it put me in mind of this;


Akira 09-12-2008 05:11 PM

Songs in the Key of Life, for me. I love Sir Duke, I just cannot be unhappy when this song is playing.

This album is chock-a-block full of great material, the amount of covers and samples from this album testify to that.

Janszoon 09-12-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ToeAndno (Post 517815)
Songs in the Key of Life, for me. I love Sir Duke, I just cannot be unhappy when this song is playing.

That's one of my favorite Stevie Wonder songs! Some of the best vocals in any song ever IMHO.

Akira 09-13-2008 02:25 PM

i watched him on Jonathan Ross and he did three songs at the end, absolutely amazing, anybody going to see him perform ought to think themselves very lucky.

Clamz 09-22-2008 08:49 PM

I'm honestly (blasphemy incoming) not a fan of Stevie's 70's material, by-and-large. However, of the three albums in the poll, I went with SitKoL. "Another Star" and "Isn't She Lovely" are superb numbers :)

hillary 10-15-2008 10:11 AM

I love him so much!he's fantastic!
Do I Do, Maybe your baby, i was made to love her, Boogie on Reggae woman, i'm gonna stand for it, for once in my life!
I saw him in Milan on 26th september, he left me without words...
I screamed for all the concert!

Bulldog 10-20-2008 04:34 PM

I voted Talking Book as it's the only one I have. I've got some learning to do, I know

Dr. Yellow Black 10-27-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ToeAndno (Post 517815)
Songs in the Key of Life, for me. I love Sir Duke, I just cannot be unhappy when this song is playing.

The jazz band I play in at school plays Sir Duke. It is such a feel good song.

Akira 10-27-2008 06:39 PM

Aye, great music about how great music is.

asahd3 11-02-2008 07:03 AM

Most of Stevie's early works are classics and should be enjoyed by all the youngsters of today. In addition, most if not all of his hits should never be covered by any other artist cuz they would just ruin it. Songs in the Key of Life is around the time my cousins and I were just getting into music. It's the best.

Rainard Jalen 11-29-2008 02:07 PM

My appreciation goes about as far as Innervisions, which is truly a great album. Unfortunately I find that much of Stevie's other stuff is lyrically simplistic and bland. The music's often somewhat remarkable, though.

Stevie Wonder, I feel the need to add, is not the greatest African American solo artist of all time. That accolade goes to Prince, who is imo more talented and undoubtedly has a lot more depth.

I never got the love for Songs In The Key Of Life. The first half, great as it is, does not make up for the second half which seems to be filled up with some of the most boring, innocuous songs I've ever heard.

Sister Ray 11-29-2008 11:53 PM

Songs in the Key of Life is the most successful Stevie Wonder project in terms of singles...

It is fantastic!

Rainard Jalen 11-30-2008 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Ray (Post 554851)
Songs in the Key of Life is the most successful Stevie Wonder project in terms of singles...

It produced 5 singles, out of 17 songs, over a period of 3 years...... Out of those 5, the only genuinely successful pop hits were I Wish and Sir Duke. Not particularly impressive when you look at the actual facts.

Innervisions had more serious hits than SitKoL. 3 major r&b chart toppers, and there were only 9 songs on the album. Innervisions is much better than SitKoL in pretty much every way and I struggle to see for a second why any music critic or journalist, or FAN for that matter, would see otherwise.

Akira 12-05-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 554863)
I struggle to see for a second why any music critic or journalist, or FAN for that matter, would see otherwise.

I know! It's almost as though everyone has their own opinions and tastes. Crazy bastards! :crazy:

Janszoon 12-05-2008 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 554863)
It produced 5 singles, out of 17 songs, over a period of 3 years...... Out of those 5, the only genuinely successful pop hits were I Wish and Sir Duke. Not particularly impressive when you look at the actual facts.

Innervisions had more serious hits than SitKoL. 3 major r&b chart toppers, and there were only 9 songs on the album. Innervisions is much better than SitKoL in pretty much every way and I struggle to see for a second why any music critic or journalist, or FAN for that matter, would see otherwise.

Personally, I think Talking Book is better than either of those albums.

Rainard Jalen 12-05-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ToeAndno (Post 558195)
I know! It's almost as though everyone has their own opinions and tastes. Crazy bastards! :crazy:

lol. I understand people have their own opinions and tastes. But there are always motivations behind those opinions and tastes, and usually you can understand what the motivations are. My point is that I cannot understand what possible motivation there could be for preferring SITKOL over Innervisions, given that the former is overly long and contains a bundle of especially boring duds.

Janszoon 12-05-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 558247)
lol. I understand people have their own opinions and tastes. But there are always motivations behind those opinions and tastes, and usually you can understand what the motivations are. My point is that I cannot understand what possible motivation there could be for preferring SITKOL over Innervisions, given that the former is overly long and contains a bundle of especially boring duds.

I agree that Songs In the Key Of Life is overly long and has some duds ("Village Ghetto Land" comes to mind as a particularly hideous example) but I think the best songs on the album are much better than the best songs on Innervisions. For that reason I think I'd have to rate Songs In the Key Of Life somewhat above Innervisions.

mjscarousal 12-16-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 554535)
My appreciation goes about as far as Innervisions, which is truly a great album. Unfortunately I find that much of Stevie's other stuff is lyrically simplistic and bland. The music's often somewhat remarkable, though.

Stevie Wonder, I feel the need to add, is not the greatest African American solo artist of all time. That accolade goes to Prince, who is imo more talented and undoubtedly has a lot more depth.I never got the love for Songs In The Key Of Life. The first half, great as it is, does not make up for the second half which seems to be filled up with some of the most boring, innocuous songs I've ever heard.

Bit of a exaggeration. Prince is good but Stevie Wonder blows Prince out the waters vocally even in (song writing ability) IF your point was Prince is a better singer than Stevie. Prince is average best vocal. His a great musician though but so is Stevie Wonder. In my opinion, I think its fair to say Stevie Wonder is ONE of the greatest black solo artists of all time because HE IS. Marvin and Stevie both.

I love all of Stevie's work I really can't pick one but Songs in the key of life from the list.

spark10036 12-16-2008 04:45 PM

I never really got in his music, but I really respect him for really putting work in his song and his impact on music in general.
however I can't get past that scene from "High Fidelity", absolutely hilarious...damn you Jack Black

Rainard Jalen 12-16-2008 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mjscarousal (Post 564906)
Bit of a exaggeration. Prince is good but Stevie Wonder blows Prince out the waters vocally even in (song writing ability) IF your point was Prince is a better singer than Stevie. Prince is average best vocal. His a great musician though but so is Stevie Wonder. In my opinion, I think its fair to say Stevie Wonder is ONE of the greatest black solo artists of all time because HE IS. Marvin and Stevie both.

I love all of Stevie's work I really can't pick one but Songs in the key of life from the list.

Many of Wonder's songs were co-wrote and a lot of the cleverness in the finished product is not owed to the songwriting itself but to the production, which also was not done by Stevie.

Prince on the other hand wrote most everything himself and produced it all too...oh, and often played all the instruments. For me, it's a no brainer: Prince is the victor.

mjscarousal 12-17-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 565150)
Many of Wonder's songs were co-wrote and a lot of the cleverness in the finished product is not owed to the songwriting itself but to the production, which also was not done by Stevie.

Prince on the other hand wrote most everything himself and produced it all too...oh, and often played all the instruments. For me, it's a no brainer: Prince is the victor.

It doesn't matter. Stevie Wonder still wrote alot of his work and to sit here and say that Prince wrote ALL his work is not accurate. For the most part both artists wrote most of their work but both at some point or another has had a hand in the writing aspect which is nothing wrong with it. There still talented. Stevie Wonder was heavily involved with the production and the creation of the music, literally in almost all his work. He may not have played every single piece of instrument on every song that he has made but for the most part he played a key role in the music BUT the same goes with Prince. Prince doesn't play all the instruments on EVERY song he has written so why hold that against Stevie?

Stevie Wonder and also alot of other artists open doors for prince and made it so he could do alot of the things that he has done AND no I'm not naming him one of prince inspirations but just what he contributed to music in general and especially as a black artist.

The mere fact that Prince plays instruments is nothing "innovative" because their are plenty of musicians and artists who played all instruments who were black BEFORE prince.

Stevie and Prince BOTH are great.
Prince is great but Stevie Wonder surpasses. Just because Prince writes and plays instruments doesn't make him no better, once again Stevie Wonder does the same and was doing it long before Prince came into the music industry.

Let'sGetFunky 12-19-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 565150)
Many of Wonder's songs were co-wrote and a lot of the cleverness in the finished product is not owed to the songwriting itself but to the production, which also was not done by Stevie.

Prince on the other hand wrote most everything himself and produced it all too...oh, and often played all the instruments. For me, it's a no brainer: Prince is the victor.

Hi, came across this site while doing some googling.

You do realize that Stevie Wonder has his own recording studio, and that he actually knows how to operate equipment , right? On many of his albums/songs, you can see that he has written, played instruments and produced the tracks himself. Obviously he's blind, so there are going to be some things out of his hands, but I have no doubt whatsoever that what you hear on the albums is the sound as Stevie himself intended, not someone else. Stevie often plays all the instruments himself as well. He usually does produce his own albums and material as well.

Let's take a look at the Innervisions credits:

Too High - Every instrument was Stevie. Background vocalists were used, that's it.

All In Love Is Fair - Scott Edwards plays bass. Everything else is Stevie.

Living For The City - All Stevie.

Jesus Children Of America - All Stevie.

Higher Ground - All Stevie.

On the other tracks, people are credited for things like shakers, hand claps, bongos, etc... things Stevie likely could have done himself but opted not to for whatever reason (he recieved a Motown contract from Berry Gordy when Gordy saw him do drums, bongos and harmonica).

This is just one album, I'm sure he picked up more skills as the years went by. Prince is damn talented, and I have mad respect for him, but I simply can't put him on Stevie's level. Nothing Prince has done has matched up to Innervisions, Talking Book or Songs In The Key Of Life for me. Contrary to what some say, I think Stevie's 80's work and beyond has been really good, to say the least. I know a lot of people love 70's Stevie and little else, but I guess that's the pitfalls you face when you reach unimaginable heights when you're barely halfway through your twenties. The fact is that if Stevie's only work had been in the 80's, he probably would still be remembered as a very successful solo pop/r&b star. In terms of consistency, quality and overall talent, I would vote very few people over Stevie Wonder, if any.

Son of JayJamJah 12-19-2008 10:33 PM

Nice contribution thanks for adding this.

cmgypsy11 02-05-2009 03:30 PM

BOOGIE DOWN REGGAE WOMAN! I love stevie!

barbarella 02-06-2009 03:39 AM

The fact that Stevie was around way before Prince, and the fact that Prince was influenced by him surely speak for themselves. I think Stvie's music, both lyrically and musically have a lot more depth to them. Oh, and he sounds better too!

simplephysics 03-15-2009 12:47 PM

Where's the love for Wevie Stonder?

The Victor 03-15-2009 12:58 PM

Steveland Morris
 
Listen carefully...buy "Music of My Mind" and veg out on it and Talking Book together and you'll understand why these two albums are his masterpieces...all this material was recorded at the same time during a period long session in NY where he literally lived in the studio...the material recorded during that time was trickled out as seperate albums...Music and Talking Book!

The Victor 03-15-2009 01:08 PM

Another thing...although l love Prince's contribution to music..his pales in comparison to Steveland Morris...All u have to do is look at content...who cares who produced and wrote and played...Stevie is always talking about something...not too many artist can match his level of content...content the world can chew on!!!!

darkcornerinthecloset 03-15-2009 07:47 PM

ive gotta go for superstition but only cause i can play it on guitar

barbarella 03-29-2009 11:25 AM

Written by Stevie, and almost as good..



But You Can't Substitute The Real Thing -



mr. goth glam 05-17-2009 09:42 AM

Definitely like his older stuff. I can't speak much for the overall body of his recent work (last ten, fifteen years) because I've never cared for that bits of stuff I've heard from that time period.

krissi 05-28-2009 10:59 AM

key of life better than innervisions???? 2 words... higher and ground....

secret life of plants is ****.... sos "jungle fever" which he did late 80s early 90s

the woman in red soundtrack is half and half....

conversation peace is a brilliant album though....

afroblk 07-19-2009 10:18 AM

where im comming from is a great record by stevie also

Antonio 07-19-2009 11:07 AM

SONGS IN THE KEY OF MOTHER****ING LIFE!!!!!a

boo boo 07-19-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 706323)
SONGS IN THE KEY OF MOTHER****ING LIFE!!!!!a

Fantastic album and my favorite Wonder record.

But I feel the second half isn't quite as strong as the first. Hell that first disc is a perfect 10 on it's own.

Antonio 07-19-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 706366)
Fantastic album and my favorite Wonder record.

But I feel the second half isn't quite as strong as the first. Hell that first disc is a perfect 10 on it's own.

too be honest i loved every minute of it, gave every song on there 5 stars.

Sheila 08-18-2009 11:16 AM

I dont think Stevie has ever had a bad record....Songs in the Key of Life is one of my all time favourites.

MJ2009 08-20-2009 01:53 PM

Talking Book

bugsy2301 10-18-2010 07:09 PM

had to vote Songs in the Key of Life.

but meh. It's all good. Living for the City :love:


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