Funk Intellegence
 

So my brother has been collecting old records for many years and just the other day we started talking about funk music, which he loves, and I just can't beleive how funk has been so forgotten and how influential it is. So what I'm getting at is why do you think this has happened?

Keep in mind i don't know much about the genre.

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it is far from forgotten. These artists are from the last few years. It's just a question of looking around.

I don't really know how to answer this question since I don't think it's been forgotten at all.

I dunno maybe its just my view and talking with my brother. I'm just curious why most people don't even know what funk music is?

I think most people do know what it is.

Ha well maybe i'm just crazy. But thanks anyway.

I think funk has made profound waves into many other genres.

Parliament is funk, Rick James is funk, the Isley Brothers are funk.

Is Dave Mathews funk?

Is Nirvana funk?

Is NWA funk?

Is Snoop Dogg funk?

Is Jack Johnson or ALO funk?

Is Primus funk?

As soon as you start adding dotted quarter and eighth notes in your hook, doubling your one/down beat, adding aggressive bass lines, starting phrases on an up beat, etc, you are verging on funk. Some popular music is linear now, but most modern music is uninteresting without flavors of funk. Most modern music without solid bass is also uninteresting.

Just because people don't call it funk....

Dear Sir,
i don't understand your thread completely but according to my thinking islay brother and parliament have funk music.

Ignore these guys. They can't think beyond the question.

I think Funk was, as it was in the 70's, has grown up, gotten tighter and more open-minded. Funk is rarely straight up funk any more. Its often coupled with many other genres as a sort of musical-modifier.

As it was in the 70's is sort of a snapshot in time. I'd suggest you look at funk across the span of time we've had and look for the consistent elements. Thats funk. The sequene jumpsuits and ridiculous glasses were the 70's.

Whats not to understand, The Isley Brothers & Parliament are true funk bands, and he is describing how other bands and different forms of modern music are so influenced by the funk genre, and that the genre might be a little under appreciated.

I think it's happened because bands like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and I actually can't think of anyone else at the moment, came along and turned it into something pretty lame, and it got abandoned by black people for rap and hip-hop, so it lost its cool or something.

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This is an honest guess, but I assume it had a lot more to do with the white people who made disco than the white people like the Chili Peppers who actually did something interesting with it...

I don't make a habit of being an outright ******* often, but this is a ****ing stupid comment.

I think it has a lot to do with the title of the thread, (funk intelligence) :rolleyes:give me a break :laughing:, it went to hell right off the bat.

I think this is partially correct. Funk was originally an outgrowth of R & B (which was a term invented to replace "race music", and became Rock and Roll--especially, but not exclusively, when it was/is played by white musicians). Modern R & B (so called) doesn't tend to sound anything like the originators (Chuck Berry, Little Richard, etc), which seem to have been folded into the Rock & Roll camp. Likewise Funk has been brought into the Rock fold (like R.H.C.P.--I'm not saying they are lame , though), and so it has both been diffused and maintained through the works of the original funk music pioneers like Parliament/Funkadelic and it's off-shoots Bootsy Collins et al. In any case it has lost the predominance it held in the '70s, as it is overshadowed (but not superceded) by more "now" styles; hip-hop, etc.

I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but it sounds like you just watched the movie Cadillac Records, bio of Chicago's Chess Records.
You forgot to mention the Scottish band, The Average White Band, along beside Parliament/Funkadelic, as innovators in the 70s funk era. British soul & funk is just as original musically.

Maybe.

Wheres your Avatar, by the wya?

It takes up to much room, I prefer to stay small as possible, and out of the wya. :laughing:

just google something you want with 150x150 after it, thats how I do it. You don't even have to ask the mods.

Funk music ran out of steam, ran out of innovation. People know what it is and understand the main concept, it's just that it kind of died in a way. Funk musicians such as myself are still learning all we can about the genre, playing it as much as we can, and hoping that in the future we can innovate it and fuse it with other genres as we've seen fellow musicians do.

One definition for Funk Intelligence is, You Haven't Done Nothin', by Stevie Wonder.

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Straight up funk is still the best kind of funk, it annoys me when I see other bands or artists diluting it unecessarily with other kinds of music.

All you need is a funky bassline, a funky beat, some rhythmic 9th chords, a wah pedal and a vocalist. Horns optional.