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grindy 11-10-2015 04:11 PM

^Haven't listened to him in ages. Thanks for the reminder.

Mr. Charlie 11-10-2015 04:57 PM

John Williams is a fine composer, but I prefer Danny Elfman. His Alice in Wonderland soundtrack, in particular, sets my juices flowing. If the land could sing, if the trees and rivers and mountains and meadows had a voice, in my head it would sound like this:

Danny Elfman - Alice's Theme


Chula Vista 11-10-2015 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1650889)
John Williams is a fine composer, but I prefer Danny Elfman. His Alice in Wonderland soundtrack, in particular, sets my juices flowing. If the land could sing, if the trees and rivers and mountains and meadows had a voice, in my head it would sound like this:

Danny Elfman - Alice's Theme

Big Fish is my favorite Elfman movie.

Mr. Charlie 11-10-2015 05:47 PM

Not seen it. Good soundtrack?

DeadChannel 11-10-2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 1650856)
I feel John Williams' music is great, but now I'm wondering what other composers out there I've been missing! Which movie composers do you feel are better than him, and why?

I've been really impressed, for example, by how well John Williams matches his composition to the movie action, so it is hard for me to imagine anyone else doing that better than he does.

I mostly agree with Frownland's picks, except he missed two of the best.

Firstly, you just have to check out Ennio Morricone, who imo is the greatest film soundtrack composer to ever live. His best work was done in the 60s and 70s, working on spaghetti westerns by directors like Leone and Corbucci:


^You might recognize this song from the Quentin Tarantino film Inglorious Basterds, but it originally appeared in 1966's The Big Gundown with Lee Van Cleef. One of the thing I love about Morricone is his ability to create a kind of tension perfectly matched to the genre. Also notice his use of quotes from Beethoven's Fur Elise, which is meant to represent one of the villains (who had played the piece earlier in the film)

Another good example is this:


Which comes from one of the most iconic scenes in movie history. Without the music, though, I'm of the mind that the scene would be much duller. After all, it is a very, very long Mexican standoff. His theme from the same film is also incredible:


You might've heard this one, because it's pretty iconic. Moving on:


I was less sold on the soundtrack when I first saw the movie (which is my favorite western) because it lacked the rattlesnake-in-a-drumkit aesthetic of works of his that I was used to. However, I've since come around and this is one of his best imo. It's so epic while being haunting at the same time. A perfect match for the disconcerting snowscapes of Sergio Corbucci's masterpiece.

Another composer that is a genius imo is Bernard Hermann. Listen to this:


I love the freneticism of the track. It also contains one of the greatest motifs in cinema and, placed against Hitchcock's best movie, manages to create a profound sense of dread.

Those are two of my favorites, but these are worth checking out too:



^The director of The Master just did a documentary on the conception of Greenwood's soundtracks for his films as well. Also, The Master is the film of the decade.



Chula Vista 11-10-2015 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1650919)
Not seen it. Good soundtrack?

It's a great all around movie. One of my favorite films ever for that genre.

ChelseaDagger 11-10-2015 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1650919)
Not seen it. Good soundtrack?

Good movie period.

... And on the subject of John Williams, I'm really surprised nobody has yet mentioned Jurassic Park.

VEGANGELICA 11-20-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1650889)
John Williams is a fine composer, but I prefer Danny Elfman. His Alice in Wonderland soundtrack, in particular, sets my juices flowing. If the land could sing, if the trees and rivers and mountains and meadows had a voice, in my head it would sound like this:

Danny Elfman - Alice's Theme

Thank you for the link to one of the Alice in Wonderland pieces by Danny Elfman. The "Alice" song definitely has a magical feel to it.

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Originally Posted by DeadChannel (Post 1650945)
[...]Firstly, you just have to check out Ennio Morricone, who imo is the greatest film soundtrack composer to ever live. His best work was done in the 60s and 70s, working on spaghetti westerns by directors like Leone and Corbucci: [...]

Another composer that is a genius imo is Bernard Hermann. Listen to this:


I love the freneticism of the track. It also contains one of the greatest motifs in cinema and, placed against Hitchcock's best movie, manages to create a profound sense of dread.

Those are two of my favorites, but these are worth checking out too: [...]

Ennio Morricone's spaghetti western soundtracks do match the feel of those scenes well!

I especially like Bernard Herman's Psycho theme, which is eerie and at times beautiful.

Your clip of the soundtrack from "Come and See" inspired me to read more about the movie, realizing what a powerful movie it must be. I'd heard about its famous scene elsewhere on MusicBanter (when the boy sees flashbacks of images of Hitler's life, all the way to the time when Hitler was just a baby, and then the boy can't bear to kill him), but I hadn't realized that scene was from this movie. The music has a very chilling effect that fits the subject matter of dreadful carnage and cruelty.

Thanks for all the suggestions and videos!

DeadChannel 11-20-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 1653444)
Thank you for the link to one of the Alice in Wonderland pieces by Danny Elfman. The "Alice" song definitely has a magical feel to it.


Ennio Morricone's spaghetti western soundtracks do match the feel of those scenes well!

I especially like Bernard Herman's Psycho theme, which is eerie and at times beautiful.

Your clip of the soundtrack from "Come and See" inspired me to read more about the movie, realizing what a powerful movie it must be. I'd heard about its famous scene elsewhere on MusicBanter (when the boy sees flashbacks of images of Hitler's life, all the way to the time when Hitler was just a baby, and then the boy can't bear to kill him), but I hadn't realized that scene was from this movie. The music has a very chilling effect that fits the subject matter of dreadful carnage and cruelty.

Thanks for all the suggestions and videos!

Come and See is an absolute masterpiece in my eyes. Very chilling, indeed.

I wrote a review of it a while ago, if you want some more reasons to check it out: http://www.musicbanter.com/1532632-post24.html


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