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Sparky 06-03-2012 10:21 PM

wade and lebron will certainly get more help going to the line from refs in miami

ray allen production has been good, boston needs pierce to be more effective. I also think they steisma shoud get off the bench a little, another shot blocker on the floor would be good

FireWaterBurn 06-03-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1195918)
wade and lebron will certainly get more help going to the line from refs in miami

ray allen production has been good, boston needs pierce to be more effective. I also think they steisma shoud get off the bench a little, another shot blocker on the floor would be good

i agree with all of that. KG has to take a lot of breaks and when he's out Miami goes right to the rim with ease.

I think Game 5 we will see Norris Cole play on Rondo a lot. He defended really nice and made a couple nice plays, even though I think Chalmers is actually a pretty good player.

Something I just thought about... What if Bosh comes back at some point??

Sparky 06-03-2012 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FireWaterBurn (Post 1195924)
i agree with all of that. KG has to take a lot of breaks and when he's out Miami goes right to the rim with ease.

Yeah, he's being asked to do a lot. Play center and run down court both ends early every possession. He's so crucial to how they work they're offense and defense. People say Tim Duncan is playing young for his age but i think KG deserves some recognition.

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I think Game 5 we will see Norris Cole play on Rondo a lot. He defended really nice and made a couple nice plays, even though I think Chalmers is actually a pretty good player.
Yeah Norris was great. I'm not a fan of chalmers, i think most of his drives are easy and most of shots are open looks. Should be able to get more assists.

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Something I just thought about... What if Bosh comes back at some point??
I think miami will not consider it unless game 7.

Still can't help but feel that home advantage is the only determining factor, and so miami will win.

FireWaterBurn 06-03-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1195927)
Yeah, he's being asked to do a lot. Play center and run down court both ends early every possession. He's so crucial to how they work they're offense and defense. People say Tim Duncan is playing young for his age but i think KG deserves some recognition.



Yeah Norris was great. I'm not a fan of chalmers, i think most of his drives are easy and most of shots are open looks. Should be able to get more assists.



I think miami will not consider it unless game 7.

Still can't help but feel that home advantage is the only determining factor, and so miami will win.

KG and Duncan are both playing great and personally I love seeing the old veterans turn it on. Two years ago I didn't think Duncan had much more left, and after last year I questioned KG. Two COMPLETELY different players, but the best power forwards of our time. Great coaching too for both of them, giving them enough rest in the regular season to keep them fresh enough for the playoffs.

Here's a question for anyone following this thread: KG or Duncan? Talkin about their careers, not how good they are now. That's a tough one. (and Dirk too since he's a PF, but plays such a unique style)

I think Chalmers plays pretty good defense and is a good flopper. Hits open threes and has a few nice drives each game. I don't trust Cole as much hitting those threes but I like how Cole pressures Rondo. I hate how every team plays off Rondo so much, you gotta mix it up and defend him like a usual point guard sometimes I think. No idea why teams don't do it.

debaserr 06-04-2012 12:02 AM

Refs were awful both ways tonight (though how they called the game in general favored Boston).

I'd much rather have Duncan. KG has mostly been a jump shooter throughout his career, and it's not like Timmy is a bad defender or anything.

FRED HALE SR. 06-04-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1195940)
Refs were awful both ways tonight (though how they called the game in general favored Boston).

I'd much rather have Duncan. KG has mostly been a jump shooter throughout his career, and it's not like Timmy is a bad defender or anything.

Homecourt is always gonna draw this complaint.

I'd rather have Duncan also and thats no sleight on KG hes a beast also. Duncan just might be the best power forward to ever play the game. His array of moves in the post puts him above KG alone, but his rebound ability and defense are allstar level as you described.

Holy crap does San Antonio suddenly look average at best against OKC. We'll see how that Texas BBQ gets the spurs going again.

FireWaterBurn 06-04-2012 01:04 PM

It's true there have been some bad calls so far, but the disparities in foul shots I think is more about play style than reffing. I don't think it's a coincidence that wade has been HORRIBLE from the line and nights like last night, he only makes 2 of 6 foul shots. I think him and LBJ BOTH get less aggressive when they are struggling from the line and start settling for jumpers, and naturally everyone feels more comfortable from the line when at home.

I think I'd take Duncan too but DAMN it's tough. Duncan has the best moves since Hakeem (who IMO nobody will ever be better than) and has been an absolute rock for the Spurs. They built rings around him, and KG had to go elsewhere to find success. I don't weight that real heavily though, as I've said before rings are an over rated factor in comparison discussions.

Both great defenders. Duncan more of a thicker body and better at defending guys posting up. KG is probably the best pick-and-roll defender we've seen the last 15 years with his quickness and length. It really is tough, but I think I'd go with Duncan too. He just seems to make the right play and he's always been great at drawing fouls.


I'll say it again, I'm taking Thunder tonight by 5. I think they are better than the Spurs when they play like the rabid dogs they've been playing like the last 2 games. They had the same energy earlier in the series and let a 4th quarter get away from them in San Antonio. I just think they know what this game means and will come out ferocious, and really love Sefolosha's defense and how he's played Parker.

Sparky 06-04-2012 10:16 PM

LOL so im watching the post game press conference and papovich just made the female news reporter cry.

You won't catch it on the edited version, cuz it happened off camera but it was pretty funny. She asked him something i couldn't really make out what but she said something like "are you sure?" which made him walk out on it.

You could hear other people trying to cheer her up, "aww sweetie he's always like that"

Shouldn't be a sports journalist if you cant handle the occasional stern coach.

FireWaterBurn 06-04-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FireWaterBurn (Post 1196119)

I'll say it again, I'm taking Thunder tonight by 5. I think they are better than the Spurs when they play like the rabid dogs they've been playing like the last 2 games. They had the same energy earlier in the series and let a 4th quarter get away from them in San Antonio. I just think they know what this game means and will come out ferocious, and really love Sefolosha's defense and how he's played Parker.

No big deal guys :yeah:



LOL Popovich is always a stubborn ass in interviews, especially when losing or after a loss. That's funny though, maybe she's a rookie from OKC. Getting too used to the Westbrook and Durant hipster/geek chic positivity and can't handle Pop.

Great game, Thunder deserved the win. I thought they were gonna run away with it there in the 4th. Spurs tried to flop their way back into the game and the refs weren't buying it for the most part. Bad call on that play at the end where it went off of Sefolosha. So obvious Leonard fouled him.

Thunder are just a great team, their arena will be INSANE for Game 6 and I think they will close out the series. Spurs role guys have pulled a collective Houdini and vanished. Where art thou Danny Green? Gary Neal? Matt Bonner? Thiago Splitter?

Sparky 06-04-2012 10:29 PM

damn kudos on calling it

I thought this game was officiated surprisingly well. Even though he fouled i thought leonard played an amazing game, bright future for that dude.

I didn't like the way san antionio played tonight. It was out of their element running it through manu ginobli made everyone else stagnant.

Chicago was the team destined to play OKC, neither boston or miami has any chance of matching them


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